Brian Madden TV episode 2 - Predictions for 2009

Two videos in two days? Don't worry. We're not converting the website over to a video-only format. This second episode of Brian Madden TV was recorded at the same time as our first episode (with the same beta feel). Originally we were planning on releasing this episode on the regular Thursday schedule a full week after the first one, but as it turns out, next Thursday's episode is already scheduled to be our VMworld round-up, and then we have the Microsoft MVP Summit and the Symantec ManageFusion round-ups the two Thursdays after at. So today's show is sort of an out-of-cycle bonus release.

In this episode of Brian Madden TV, Brian and Gabe discuss their predictions for the desktop and application virtualization industry for 2009. Specific conversations include:

  • An analysis of The Yankee Group's predictions for which vendors will win and lose in 2009.
  • 2009 will be the year of the client hypervisor discussion
  • What VECD means for Microsoft moving forward
  • Windows 7 will be a catalyst for desktop change
  • Windows 7 and Calista
  • VMware's Teradici co-development agreement
  • What will Red Hat do with spice?
  • Quest's EOP protocol
  • Citrix owned the Terminal Server space, but no one owns the VDI space
  • Cloud-based desktops

Tune in next Thursday, February 26 for Brian Madden TV Episode #3 - recorded live from VMworld Europe in Cannes, France.

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Would be great if I could watch these vide's well over standard RDP or ICA. How about that as a challange!


Is that a challenge to me, or a challenge to Citrix and Microsoft?


Hi guys,

Just a correction on the vWorkspace stuff.  vWorkspace does not provide support for their VDI solution sitting on top of XenServer, but it provides support for the other major Hypervisors, such as ESX, HyperV, Parallels etc.  Well that is how I understand it anyway.  Happy to be corrected if I am wrong.




Of course it's a challenge out to the vendors. Just a fun way to watch content I enjoy over LAN/WAN etc and to help get feedback from the community as to whcih protocol is good. As we all know Multimedia is a huge barrier for VDI etc to get accepted en mass.



Great segment!  I really got into your discussion around DAAS and Amazon EC2.

My take... the only way for this to really take off is for Microsoft to lighten up on their licensing constraints with Windows OSs.  My understanding is that in order to host a Windows OS license in the cloud, the vendor either needs to front the cost of the OS or the customer fronts the cost up front for the OS.

Here is a link for reference:

My understanding is Server OSs only apply to this and not Desktop OSs.  

Can you clarify?



On second thought, I'll go back to calling it "clown computing"!

Great segments.



I'll be at the Microsoft MVP Global Summit next week. (And we'll be recording an episode of Brian Madden TV there.) Asking Microsoft how the SPLA applies to VDI will be a great topic of discussion!


Thanks... I'd be curious to see what they say.  My feeling is Desktone won't gain much traction until they can find a strong consumer model.  My Verizon FIOS for example... I can pay $14.95 per month for Verizon to maintain and support any PC in my house.  I pointed my father in that direction!  Imagine being able to have a thin client device and pay $5.00 more (just throwing that out there... not fact) to have a hosted desktop maintained by Verizon that runs on Desktone!  Pretty rad!

BTW... glad to see you writing more.  You writing more = me reading more = me commenting more.


While you Brian are in MS MVP meeting could you ask about VDI (VECD) licensing? I ask about year ago how to license Virtual Vista when you use WinCE terminal at work, WinXP at your laptop and Apple Mac at home (1 user). And i am still waiting; i have read VECD licensing whitepaper many times but there is no answer to this question. I think MS should change their desktop operating system licensing from per client to per user (like in Terminal Server).

Also licensing is not clear if we use client hypervisors, how many licenses you need if you run XP, Vista and W7 in same computer.