We're all on Windows 7... Now what?

It's been six months since Windows XP expired, and even though there are a few XP systems floating around here and there, it's safe to say that, in general, our Windows 7 migrations are done. (Can you believe that Windows 7 has been around for more than five years now?)

It's been six months since Windows XP expired, and even though there are a few XP systems floating around here and there, it's safe to say that, in general, our Windows 7 migrations are done. (Can you believe that Windows 7 has been around for more than five years now? Seriously! When that brand-spanking-new OS you just got finished deploying was released, there was literally no such thing as an iPad!)

So I'm curious. What are you doing with your time now?

  • Are you looking at "transforming" your desktop delivery, perhaps leveraging more VDI, RDSH, and desktop virtualization?
  • Are you looking at outsourcing more of your desktops, either via DaaS or good old-fashioned MSPs?
  • Are you planning your next Windows migration? (I hope to Windows 10.)
  • Are you look at mobility and figuring out your EMM, MDM, and MAM strategy?
  • Are you looking at your Windows management strategy, perhaps finally getting to non-persistent desktops or otherwise changing the way you manage your desktops?

What say you?

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We have no plans at the moment to move to Windows 10 under any circumstances. The next OS migration for will be in 2020 or later when Windows 7 extended support ends. There is absolutely nothing of significant value to us in Windows 10. In fact there are more regressive and bad changes which we have to deal with. So Windows 10 is essentially no better than Windows 8 for us.



I take it you have downloaded the tech preview and base your position on the use of the early release?


Another question to add to the list: Are you interested in any of the EMM-like management features in Windows 10 (i.e. MDM APIs, work/personal data separation, etc.)


From our point of view the ‘desktop’ side of things is pretty much done and we’ve been in a “Business as Usual” stage for some time.

We support Windows 8.1 for some bespoke use cases but Win7 is very much the standard.

We’re just putting in a full management solution for OS X (rather than some in-house management tools)

Our recent efforts have seen us transition from vWorkspace to View (part of our ELA) and down scaled as VDI is now used in the context of BYO, COPE and mobility rather than desktop replacement.

We are constantly in a state of R&D looking at the future, OS, deployment and management (sometimes have to wait for the tools to have the right level of support) and user behaviour. - This is key in my opinion. Also in 3 - 4 years when our recent end-point refresh reaches end of life, do we move things back into the datacenter or carry on with traditional DaaS or hybrid?… these are what I’m focusing on next year and beyond.

EMM or a variation of it is probably next on our agenda… We have solutions in but want to try and standardise on a common tool set across devices.

In addition to the above we’re now starting to build up our application deployment service to allow us to stream apps directly to the users device (Windows) with all the security wrapping around it. This should then facilitate less demand on our View infrastructure.

Our IT Self-service Store (RES) has been the other key focus for us and will continue to be as we continue to expand it beyond the desktop and into datacenter and other business operations.


So end of Mainstream support for windows 7 is in almost exactly two months from now, so essentially it won't get any changes from here on in.  End of extended support is Jan 2020.  As far as I can see the only move away from Windows 7 is to specifically support touch screen devices.

Most enterprises I talk to are planning to stick on Win7 for the longest period possible.

In terms of what is going to happen in 2020, it's impossible to tell what the EUC environment is going to look like, certainly proliferation of devices will increase as will cloud make a bigger and bigger impression, beyond that who knows?

It might even be that Windows 7 is the last ever Microsoft client operating system that is almost universally deployed.

EMM will continue to be awful for a while yet until the mobile OS manufacturers take enterprise seriously.


- Move to a service model for the desktop both on and off premises. So make it cheaper to manage and faster to deliver. Non-persistent models help in the DC, but need to think about it across the environment as different service offerings.

- More security for endpoints as they diversify, as well as changing threat landscape.

- Drive EMM to zero $ as commodity play and focus on new green field mobile apps that enable the business. Likely a mix of native mobile apps and HTML 5 apps.

- Look for ways to unify mobile and desktop management over time.

- Drive down Citrix costs

- More SaaS apps

@Daniel Have been telling you for years vWorkspace was a waste of time, and now you move to View and RES. Picking loosing bets a habit, or do you just love R&D too much? :-)


I should add Windows 10. Win 7 was left too late, so the hope is better management investments over the next several years moving to a service model will make a future migration easier. We want to make migrations the norm and less heavy lifting, especially as Microsoft also starts to shift to a more frequent release schedule. To deal with that, we have to adapt our own internal crap to deal with this. If we don't we are not relevant moving forward and this will be the mobile inspired norm anyway across other platforms. So there will be no choice but to catch the desktop up, or to remove it completely which is not going to happen any time in the next 10 years.



vWorkspace did the job required at the time and in many ways will be missed.

I see no viable alternatives to the others.

I do agree with that moving to a service model is key which is why it's critical to put in the automation engine behind it.


@Daniel. Yep, a lot more end to end automation is required to get there. That will make the migrations a norm as pace of tech change gets faster.


@Jim, out of curiosity, why do you think EMM is awful, and what would you like to see OEMs do to address it?


- XenDesktop 7.5 (RDSH W2012R2 and VDI Win8.1) - check

- XenMobile 9 - check

- App-V 5 - check

- Hyper-V on Windows Server 2012 R2 - check

- fully automated deployment - check

At the moment we're finishing the roll out to all the wan offices.

Next projects will be:

- Lync vs. Jabber in a RDSH and VDI environment

- "Follow me print" solution with Cortado aka ThinPrint or something like that. :)

Public Cloud or DaaS Solution is currently not an option. The Privacy Policy is here still a big issue.. :)