VDI and Project Trinity discussion
Wednesday, December 27, 2006 3:42:57 PM
I was surpised that there was little or no discussion about how the recent acquisition of Ardence. How does an OS streaming solution provider fit into this new and smorgasboard-like approach for delivering a Microsoft desktop (Thick or thin, real and/or virtual) , desktop-based apps (installed or virtual and delivered by PNAgent, Tarpon and/or Softricity) to desktops or thru server centric services.
This seems like a lot of connecting the dots, but it's hard to know who will control the dots and the rules for connecting.
This seems like a lot of connecting the dots, but it's hard to know who will control the dots and the rules for connecting.
reply to this RE: VDI and Project Trinity discussion
Wednesday, December 27, 2006 4:48:25 PM
The Ardence acquisition happened after this interview, so that's why we didn't talk about it.
Brian
Brian
DDI vs. VDI
Monday, January 15, 2007 12:03:12 PM
I understand that the Citrix DDI model encompasses more than just VDI; flexibility to connect to physical, blade, and virtual desktops. However, I think Citrix is missing something critical in a true VDI solution: support for non Windows desktops. My shop is primarily Windows, but I must be able to also provide remote access to (virtual) Linux desktops. I'd hoped Trinity was going to be my VDI holy grail, but I guess not.
Here is what I'd hoped for:
Port a stripped down version of PS for Unix to run directly on the ESX host (minimal IMA service, support for an ICA session from remote user to the ESX server – not to the guest OS). This would allow virtual machines to be published (not sure if you'd use the term “published application†or “published desktop†in this case) using some management interface, such as a Citrix Console plugin to Virtual Center.
This model provides three primary advantages:
1)Support for non Windows guest OS (any guest OS supported by VMware).
2)Since the ICA connection exists at the hypervisor level, the guest OS is kept “pure†or “minimalâ€. There would be no requirement for loading Citrix software/services into the guest OS to support an ICA connection. This is an especially important in at least my environment, and I can only assume other administrators would benefit from this.
3)Network security & simplification: It would be possible to put a collection of guest (virtual) desktops on a virtual LAN without any connection to a physical LAN. The guest OS could be completely isolated from the WAN. In the DDI model, each WinXP instance requires a route from the Presentation Server.
I'm curious if anyone else sees the advantage/opportunity in this or if anyone (Brian) knows if Citrix as even considered such a model.
Here is what I'd hoped for:
Port a stripped down version of PS for Unix to run directly on the ESX host (minimal IMA service, support for an ICA session from remote user to the ESX server – not to the guest OS). This would allow virtual machines to be published (not sure if you'd use the term “published application†or “published desktop†in this case) using some management interface, such as a Citrix Console plugin to Virtual Center.
This model provides three primary advantages:
1)Support for non Windows guest OS (any guest OS supported by VMware).
2)Since the ICA connection exists at the hypervisor level, the guest OS is kept “pure†or “minimalâ€. There would be no requirement for loading Citrix software/services into the guest OS to support an ICA connection. This is an especially important in at least my environment, and I can only assume other administrators would benefit from this.
3)Network security & simplification: It would be possible to put a collection of guest (virtual) desktops on a virtual LAN without any connection to a physical LAN. The guest OS could be completely isolated from the WAN. In the DDI model, each WinXP instance requires a route from the Presentation Server.
I'm curious if anyone else sees the advantage/opportunity in this or if anyone (Brian) knows if Citrix as even considered such a model.
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