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How can I integrate XenApps 64 bit into a Netware Environment, in the x64 Terminal Server / Citrix forum on BrianMadden.com

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Kevin Hammill Posted: Thu, Oct 1 2009 2:50 PM

I have experience with Citrix PS 3.0 on W2k03 and PS 4.0 so I know a lot of the work arounds.  I am now faced with a new challenge.

I am not using Active Directory; somewhere I read that if using XenApps in a Neware environment AD isn’t recommended.  I have a test server Dell PowerEdge SC1430 Xeon 1.6 GHz and 2 Gig RAM setup on a Windows 2008 64 bit enterprise edition platform.  I followed XenApps Documentation CTX113392 for installation steps.  Not too bad of a process.

I want to integrate the XenApps into the Netware environment so I installed the latest 9/28/09 NWClient (NW-Client for WinServer 2008) on the Windows 2008 64bit platform. I tried installing the nwclient client before the XenApps installation and after XenApps installation without any noticeable changes. One instruction set I was following indicated the order of installation OS, NWGINA, then XenApps mattered.  I’m not sure about this.

In XenApps Access Management I made the adjustments in the Properties list for the farm, by selecting  Farm-wide > XenApp > General,and pointing  to the NDS tree.  I have made the usual registry adjustments in the winlogon using  ctxgina.dll and nwgina.dll in the right places.  However I cannot locate the NWGINA on the Windows 2008 64 bit platform.  I believe this is one of my problems.  Does anyone have experience looking for nwgina on a Windows 2008 64 bit platform?

When I try to setup a published application I see the Network-Tree in the user selection area however I cannot add Netware users because I'm stopped at a login dialog for the netware server.  I have tried using every login context .administrator.users.grr.rvi is one example.  I cannot login to the Netware server.

I do not have ZENworks 7 Desktop management loaded.  This maybe a problem, however on all my older Citrix farms I have never loaded ZenWorks only the NWClient. 

I know I have not yet fully integrated XenApps into the Netware Network.  I do have my drive mappings.  Any suggestions ?

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Are you using the 4.91 SP5 Client.  It is not supported on x64

--Emil

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It is my understanding that XenApp 5.0 on Windows 2008 does not support Netware environments similarly to how Windows 2003 does. I would have to go looking in the documentation to be sure.

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Currently I have "Novell Client 2 for Windows Vista / 2008" as my NWClient.  Which hasn't been a cut and paste interface with Windows 2008 64 bit.  I have notes on this process.  The shop is running NWClient 4.91 SP4 and 32 bit platforms. I know how to integrate a Citirx box using this 4.91 nwclient. 

You raise an interesting thought.  I have a integration problem.  XenApps is the odd duck.  I have 2-farms running today (PS 3.0, on W2K03 and PS 4.0, on W2K03 both using nwclient 4.91 SP4) but there is an unknown with the newer nwclient.  I need to get to common ground and eliminate a variable.  I have 2 variables contributing to my integration problem.  One is the newer NWClient the other is the idea that XenApps and Novell don't play together at all.  See next forum reply. 

I believe the root of the problem is XenApps and Novell.  A logical approach is to install the nwclient 4.91 SP4 or SP5.  Configure my Windows 2008 64 bit with the NWClient.  (Question? Will nwclient 4.91 SP5 be compatiblie with a 64 bit W2K08. research it for sure)  Then install my XenApps 5.0 and see what pans out.

Thanks for the idea.

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The 4.91 client will not work on anything over 2003 x86.  I have not tried the Vista client on 2008, but it is not supported for 2008 or 7.

I am suprised Novell don't have one as Server 2008 is supported on their version on Xen.

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You are absolutely right, 4.91 client doesn't work on W2K08 64 bit.  I looked at the Novell site for a 64 bit version without success.  I tried nwclient 4.91 SP5 just to see; Yeah for sure.  The installation doesn't even start.  Its the first mouse click on the setupnw.exe where it tells ya.

Novell is moving toward the Linux platforms.  The Novell side of the shop isn't there yet, won't be for a while.  We're automotive manufacturing, and happy to be working at this point.  The budget went in the trash last fall.  I have tested Citrix XenServer running on linux and the XenApps server running on W2K08 64 bit with linux ubuntu clients that connected to the Web Interface running locally on the XenApps 5.0 server.  Its all very nice from the Citrix side.  The integration is the final piece.

I need to research XenApps and Novell's ability to work together. 

Thanks for listeing and you're thoughts

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I was wondering if you found any information regarding this topic.  I'm guessing that ZenWorks 7 or higher picks up the integration of Novell and XenApps 5.  What I have found is Windows Server 2008 64 bit doesn't have  MSGINA.  MSGINA as you know is for logging into the OS.  It's replaced by the NWGina in the registry GinaDll as mentioned in CTX634542.  Thanks

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