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Maxime Boivin posted on 01-16-2008 9:12 AM
Hi everyone,

I'm in testing mode with CPS 4.5 and I'm wondering if you have better performance with entreprise licence than advanced ? Did someone see a difference ?

My second question is about optimization, how can I optimize a application for citrix ? I use quicktime to show image in a database in 4D.

If you have any information please help me ! thank you for your time

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Patrick Rouse replied on 01-16-2008 10:13 AM
In my opinion Advanced is a complete waste of money, and Enterprise is what anyone looking at Citrix should consider. All of the bells and whistles are in Enterprise and Platinum, and every client I ever had on Advanced asked how to get the features in Enterprise, i.e. CPU & Memory Management, Installation Manager, Resource Manager, Application Isolation & Streaming... the list goes on.

Not sure if Speedscreen Latency Reduction (SLR) helps Quicktime, or not, but youn surely try.

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Dan Murray replied on 01-16-2008 10:33 AM
Regarding performance, there should be no difference at all between the versions. As Patrick pointed out, the only difference is the feature set.
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Maxime Boivin replied on 01-16-2008 1:29 PM
With entreprise, you talk about a feature : CPU & Memory Management, how does it work exactly ? Can I set a maximum of cpu usage to a user or a program ?

I'm curious about What you guys think about CAE ? Same quality of CPS ?

Do you know, if it possible to got the installation of cps 4.5 to make some test ? Because I download the windows 2003/CPS 4.5 already install on the citrix site, but I don't get wonderful performance in virtual server with this image.


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Dan Murray replied on 01-16-2008 1:36 PM
A virtual server will not give you very good performance. Certainly, nothing close to a physical server. That is why I try to stay away from virtuals, except for less-used applications, or apps that don't need a lot of horsepower.

If by CAE you mean Citrix Access Essentials, it is the same product, but with limited licensing and the TS CALs are included from what I recall. I don't think it has all the features of Enterprise... check the Citrix site to be sure.
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Alan Osborne replied on 01-16-2008 7:49 PM
Hi,

You'll find a review of CAE 2.0 on my blog here:

http://www.vcit.ca/wordpress/2007/11/09/citrix-access-essentials-review/

I'm writing to a fairly non-technical audience in this review, so please keep that in mind.

I've also outlined the differences between CPS 4.5 and CAE 2.0 here:

http://www.brianmadden.com/Forum/Topic/88966

http://www.brianmadden.com/Forum/Topic/91565 (detailed comparison here in my comments)

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Patrick Rouse replied on 01-16-2008 10:16 PM
I will sacrifice a little scalability for ease of deployment and DR when hosted on ESX.

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Alan Osborne replied on 01-17-2008 12:14 AM
I totally agree Patrick.

I'm a big fan of virtualization, even for SBC. If you have a bunch of cores and RAM then your user density doesn't suffer when virtualizing with ESX - you're simply scaling out virtually rather than the tradition scaling up. In fact, with 8 cores or more, I would argue that your total user density INCREASES (unless you have a LOT of context switches with your VMs) if you virtualize 32-bit OS instances.

Buying modern multi-core, multi-socket server hardware is just a waste for a single 32-bit OS instance - ya gotta either go 64-bit, go virtual, or go the VDI/application virtualization route (IMHO). This BIG hardware is a nice problem to have though :-)

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Dan Murray replied on 01-17-2008 9:32 AM
Alan/Patrick,

Good point. However, when you don't have the choice in the hardware, or smaller boxes, then the VMs tend not to perform all that well. The bigger metal definitely helps!
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Patrick Rouse replied on 01-17-2008 9:41 PM
Not even bigger metal, as blades or 1U pizza box servers with dual-quad core CPUs and lots of RAM are great when connected to a SAN with VMware. One can get these servers with 32GB RAM w/o breaking the bank, and can host a few 32 bit TS.

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Maxime Boivin replied on 01-21-2008 3:37 PM
A other question :

I always have a error that occur couple time a day and I don't understand what is the problem.

If you have any ideas, please guide me !



Alert :
Server metric alert

Summary

A configured server metric has exceeded either the warning or error threshold for a sufficient duration to cause an alert to be generated. You can view and configure the warning and error thresholds for the affected metric, and see the length of time for which they have been exceeded, in the Citrix Access Management Console.

Other Information
For explanations of the various server metrics and advice on customizing them, refer to the Citrix Presentation Server Administrator's Guide and the Microsoft Windows Help for Performance Monitor.

For information on how to configure the server metrics in the Citrix Access Management Console, refer to Monitoring Server Performance with Citrix Presentation Server.

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