Tim Mangan - All Comments

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Stephen Owen — Tue, 23 Apr 2013 04:28:27 GMT

App-V is the tool in my toolbox I'm most looking forward to using. I've yet to run into a scenario in which the client choose the App-V route, but I've always offered it as an option.

Someday, my dream client will come along, and it will get all kinds of virtual.

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re: App-V versus ThinApp? That's an unfair question to me.

Daniel Bolton — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 13:26:39 GMT

@Greg to be fair to App-V, it doesn't require an infrastructure either... - Depends how it's implemented..

Would still like to see service and driver support with App-V....

I'm personally a fan of using the right tool for the job... All have their strengths and weaknesses (as pointed out)... Lot to be said for the traditional install too....

Application Jukebox is a fantastic product in terms of what it can do... but it's not suited to the "managed" desktop... - Numecent needs some real direction and leadership IMO... But it can handle pretty much anything (within reason)...

re: App-V versus ThinApp? That's an unfair question to me.

Greg Wood — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 00:54:01 GMT

We evaluated ThinApp and App-V. We actually already own App-V (Software Assurance) and we decided to actually pay for ThinApp because App-V didn't do what we wanted: The ability to run multiple versions of the same app at the same time on XenApp. Sure we could deploy the new version on the XenApp server; but nobody could use it until the last person quit the old version. And no, we didn't want to publish a separate application for the new version. So, not good enough. ThinApp does fine there.

It's also 100x more simpler, requires zero infrastructure, and is completely scriptable - exactly how our environment works. I can see the benefits App-V has over ThinApp, but we simply don't need any of them, such as app streaming.

re: App-V versus ThinApp? That's an unfair question to me.

Ruben Spruijt — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:51:47 GMT

Great timing!

Together with Jurjen and Rory we are finishing the update of the Application Vrtualization Smackdown with App-V 5.0, ThinApp 4.7.3, App-V 4.6 SP2, Cameyo, Citrix, Spoon and Symantec. Within 2 weeks the document should be final and ready to release from BrianMadden.com

re: What You Need To Know about Microsoft App-V 5

Rick Smith — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 18:41:29 GMT

Tim ~ Great article and information.

We've been trying to get Citrix PVS working with AppV 5 in Cache-less mode. Our goal is to use Citrix for publishing the virtalized app to the end user, using appv more for application isolation on the servers.

Do you have or can you recommend any articles or Whitepapers on this?

I think we are nearly there. We have The appv client on the PVS server with the install directory pointing to the persistent data drive, however there is some debate if we need a management and publishing server or if we can simply have the server run a powershell script to install all packages from a specific folder. Or if there is a better way.

We've engaged several consultants, but none seem to have v5 experience.

re: What You Need To Know about Microsoft App-V 5

Tim Mangan — Fri, 09 Nov 2012 16:03:57 GMT

Clarifying a couple of things:

MDOP 2012 does include MED-V, but it was not updated. Given the life expectancy of WinXP, no surprise there.

UE-V is indeed in the MDOP release.

re: What You Need To Know about Microsoft App-V 5

developer28 — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 18:15:21 GMT

Thanks for confirming Tim. :)

re: What You Need To Know about Microsoft App-V 5

Tim Mangan — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 16:47:45 GMT

developer28: Yes they are the same thing. When you turn this on at the client, only the metadata is stored on disk locally, everything thing else streams directly to memory and is not saved.

No, nothing special need be done. It is a client side setting that affects the whole OS. Although you can still manually download ("mount" in powershell) an individual package and keep it stored locally.

re: What You Need To Know about Microsoft App-V 5

developer28 — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 12:06:48 GMT

Hi Tim,

Thanks for an informative write-up.

I wanted to confirm one thing in relation to your article. Is "Cache-less Mode" the same as "Shared Content Store Mode"?

Also, is there anything special to be done at the time of sequencing to enable cache-less?

re: What You Need To Know about Microsoft App-V 5

rahvintzu — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 06:59:02 GMT

Thanks Tim, this tech primer hit the spot, straight to the point.

re: And here we talk about Citrix, Users, Apps, and Data

Pat Bruns — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:08:46 GMT

Tim,

Yes, it's always been about the data. We all just happen to like to focus on the tools we use to manipulate or frame the data.

Your post is good, because it generates questions.

How about versioning? Is there one "true" version of the data, and we're playing with 'ghosts' ?) That's fine for read-only snippets.) If not, how do we true-up with parallel versions?

Maybe it's just me, but I don't like putting the 'real' document into my dropbox until I know it's the way that I want it (for the moment), and am ready to have it replicate.

Thanks, Tim.

Wicked Good Thoughts!

re: Microsoft talks consumerization, Windows 8 release at Worldwide Partner Conference: Tim Mangan's recap

Tim Mangan — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 19:31:53 GMT

Yeah, I realized that later on. For some reason it is written over all of the corner, ice level, exits of the arena for some reason and that was on my mind. Apparently the basketball reference doesn't matter, though.

re: Microsoft talks consumerization, Windows 8 release at Worldwide Partner Conference: Tim Mangan's recap

Gary Schare — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 19:00:05 GMT

Great write-up Tim. I meant to try to meet up with you in Toronto but didn't get it arranged and now I'm back in Seattle. We'll have to try again next time.

I do want to point out that you managed to offend every hockey fan from Toronto to Montreal with one simple sentence. The Maple Leafs play in Toronto. The Canadiens (with an "e") play in Montreal. They take their hockey pretty seriously up there from what I understand. :-)

re: Microsoft talks consumerization, Windows 8 release at Worldwide Partner Conference: Tim Mangan's recap

Christoph Wegener — Tue, 10 Jul 2012 11:59:36 GMT

Server will become GA before Client.

Server GA: September

Client GA: October

windowsteamblog.com/.../upcoming-windows-milestones-shared-with-partners-at-wpc.aspx

blogs.technet.com/.../windows-server-2012-final-release-timing.aspx