BriForum Video - Xen vs VMware by Ron Oglesby

Please take a moment to convert the pptx file to Office 2003 and offer that as well??

An additional option is to put the slides on SlideShare or a similar website.

Thank you!!     

Very interesting. Keep up the good work, Ron!

MS released an open XML (i.e. Office 2007) converter for Mac last year. That's a standalone app you can download from http://www.microsoft.com/mac/downloads.mspx. And of course if you're using Office 2008 on the Mac, it can read the files natively.

As for Google... why are you taking Ron's intellectual property and putting it into your own Google Docs library? ;)

I think his name is whatever he wants it to be, I wouldnt argue.   Sorry Ron, was reading Scott's ESX book beforehand.. Lee

Agree with the sync'ing issue.  Still cool though

Let us know when you get this—watching this is amazingly painful/useless.

LOL. If scott got that big I would be worried that he is on the juice ala Barry Bonds...

Anyway we are talking Scott Herold right? so our new book, or has Scott written one that he didnt let me in on?

Or maybe it was a Freudian Slip and he was thinking of Scott's arms. ;-)

 ~Gabe M.

Here it is in PDF form, surely everyone can open this format

 http://filedropper.com/bf08ronoglesbyxenvsesx

If you delete the content in google docs is it really deleted? Interested thats all...

Hehe, just trying to protect the innocent. I was going to put my full name, Gabriel Medrano, but then remembered I am a nobody, LOL. I am just thankful for you somebodys.

Looking forward to more information as I am a little nervous about moving our 400 concurrent user farm to ESX 3.5. I wish I had my own lab, and leg press for that matter, but thought it would have been interesting to see a 32/64 bit comparison on both platforms. There's a doc out there where Citrix hired a company to do some performance testing with XenApp on XenServer and 64 bit performed 87% (or something like that) better than 32 bit. Interesting at the least.

I watched the first comparison, where I recall Ron stating that Xen/VMware compared well memory-wise, but not so well I/O-wise.

It is good that Xen has caught up!! This makes it more attractive to SMBs.

Please, could some people with adequate lab equipment consider doing similar evaluations, with the same testing and OS software (e.g. PassMark, IOMeter, XP, etc.0, the hardware may not have to be super-saime, for:

VMware vs. Hyper-V -- may not be easy, since they are different kinds of hypervisors, whereas VMware and Xen are more similar than are VMware and Hyper-V.

VMware vs. Sun xVM -- I know Sun's hypervisor is new, but Sun appears to have put a lot of effort into management

And possibly XenServer to Hyper-V and xVM as well.

I know these tests are time-consuming and require a lot of expensive lab equipment, etc. but they would be a great public service if they are performed by people who don't work for any of the companies.

Thank you, Tom

I think you are referring to the Tolly Group report that Citrix commissioned.  It provides some good data on the performance delta between running XenApp 64-bit on the metal and XenApp 64-bit on XenServer.  But the testing methodology used for 32-bit was arguably flawed.  IIRC it tested 16 GM memory 64bit physical server against a 14 GB Memory 64-bit guest and a 4 GB 32-bit guest. 

No prizes for guessing that the 4 GB 32-bit guest ran out of steam long before the 14 GM 64-bit guest.

Keep an eye on this site the upcomming time ;-)

More information will follow as soon as possible!

I liked this presentation.  But I think the management component/analysis whilst current will change substantially when Microsoft bring out their management tools for Xen and Hyper-V (MS SCOM).

But what I really wanted to know is the comparison in feature sets and limitations of both and a comparison of them.  Just a thought.

Other than that, it was very enjoyable.