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Is "Profile Management" enough, or is it time for "User Environment Management?"

Written on Oct 04 2007 15,123 views, 12 comments


by Brian Madden

I had a phone call yesterday with Pete Rawlinson and Martin Ingram of AppSense . They talked about how their focus as a company is evolving away from tactical things like performance and security and profile management and into the more broad “User Environment Management.” This sounds almost identical to what I heard two weeks ago when I talked to Tom Trogdon from RES (except RES calls it “User Workspace Management” instead).

The basic idea from both RES and AppSense is that as application delivery environments increase in complexity, we need to manage the user environment across all usage scenarios.

So whether the user is running a server-based computing desktop (VDI or Terminal Server), or whether they’re running a desktop locally (traditionally managed, streamed via Ardence, VMware ACE, etc.), or whether they’re accessing streamed or published applications, users will need a common “environment.” This includes traditional profile things, like icons, shortcuts, printers, drive mappings, colors, fonts, etc., and also things like guaranteed performance, security, and portability.

Personally I’ve always thought of this stuff as “profile management.” I’ve traditionally viewed the main architectural decision as a choice between roaming, mandatory, or flex profiles. But AppSense’s Martin Ingram views it a bit differently, saying:

The problem with calling it “profile management” is that people tend to think of that term only in the context of Windows profiles—roaming, mandatory, etc. But in reality that’s only part of what it’s about. As I see it, “profile management” is really about two things: First is the user changeable settings. These are settings and preferences that users themselves are able to change. The second part is policy-type settings. These are the settings and preferences that administrators need to force on users and that users cannot override.

(Note: this was paraphrased because I couldn’t type fast enough.)

Regardless of what you call it, I think everyone would agree that yes, you do need a way to manage both the user-changeable and administratively-forced settings, and you need a way to do this that is applicable across all usage scenarios. Ideally this will be flexible enough to apply in the right way across different scenarios while still being managed from one place.

The “traditional” method

How have people managed the user environment previously? Of course you can use roaming or flex profiles for user settings, and group policy and maybe software restriction policies to enforce settings. There are some drawbacks to this method, mainly stemming from the fact that neither profiles nor policies were really designed to work this way. It will require a lot of scripting and to figure out how the user is connecting and to save or restore the appropriate settings for the user.

Of course these profile and policy management capabilities are built right in to Windows, so you don’t have to buy any additional products—you just have to spend time figuring out how to make Windows do what you want it to do.

The “user environment” way

These holistic tools, like those from RES and AppSense, do provide one central management console where you can configure what settings you want to enforce on the users, and what the users can change. You can then apply these settings for specific usage scenarios or across usage scenarios. They’re database-driven and purpose-built for this task, so the products work well and are easy to use. Essentially they create one central set of rules to control the entire user environment which can then be tweaked for each connection scenario. (AppSense can even hook their settings into Citrix SmartAccess endpoint analytics scans from a Citrix Access Gateway.)

Of course it seems like there’s an almost endless lineup of vendors in this profile management / user environment management space. In addition to AppSense and RES, there are:

One vendor noticeably missing from this list is Citrix. It’s actually kind of surprising actually that Citrix hasn’t made any acquisitions in this space. With everything they’re throwing into ever-broadening “application delivery” umbrella (WAN optimization, password management, end-point performance monitoring), you’d think something as simple as cross-workspace printing and profile management would be something they would have added years ago.

Then again, Citrix is not the be-all, end-all vendor, and they still wouldn’t be even if they did buy a user environment management vendor.

What’s the right approach?

Again, probably everyone can agree that having some kind of profile management / user environment management product would be nice, and if the products just magically appeared for free, they would be used. But these vendors have stiff competition—not from each other—but from people choosing to “do nothing” about user profiles and the user workspace. Even though most of these products are relatively cheap (maybe $50 per user?), their costs add up, especially after you consider a TS CAL, a Citrix Presentation Server license, a VDI license, etc.

I guess I can sum up my thoughts with a question. In today’s environments that are moving beyond “pure TS,” is simply managing user profiles in traditional ways enough, or is it finally time to truly embrace this ‘user environment / user workspace’ issue as part of our core solution?

 
 




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Thomas McKinley wrote Worth every penny
on Thu, Oct 4 2007 8:53 AM Link To This Comment
As always it depends, but typically I would always recommend products like AppSense or Triceret as part of the core solution. Primarily because of the nastiness and brutal battles that can occur when this part of the world doesn’t work as expected with traditional methods. It certainly helps manage those expectations that so often are not aligned with reality. And that’s worth a lot !
Tim Mangan wrote We need more than companies making a competing solution
on Thu, Oct 4 2007 9:12 AM Link To This Comment
I believe that the best answers in this area for the customer can only occur thourgh a cooperative approach across the industry. This is bigger, and too deeply integrated, for a single vendor - even Citrix - to really solve. It involves all sorts of application related data; Access related, ISV related, Site related, and User/Context related.

I spent a lot of time in the communications equipment industry. There, unlike here, consortiums would form. Vendors, Service Providers, and End Users. And they would work towards a standard solution which the vendors would then make products to compete against. I'm not claiming this method is the end-all and without it's own set of problems. I just feel that this (and I'm not sure what the right term for this is either) is just the kind of problem that needs cooperation across the industry to solve.
Ruben Spruijt wrote A great topic for a future Briforum!
on Thu, Oct 4 2007 9:54 AM Link To This Comment
I think that 'User workspace Management' is a great topic for an article and/or session at BriForum. I am using User workspace Management for about 7 years. Customers do really see the benefits. With 'all the' different desktop delivery solutions (VDI/Blad/SBC/Local) a univorm user workspace is key!
Guest wrote A Good Overview
on Thu, Oct 4 2007 10:18 AM Link To This Comment
I think the promise that AppSense can even hook their settings into Citrix SmartAccess endpoint analytics scans from Citrix Access Gateway is pretty exciting - A really useful feature - we're hearing more and more about these products operating as a whole and I agree with Ruben - a uniform, but still adaptable user environment is key to keeping staff happy.
jk
Rene Vester wrote Easier Manageability
on Thu, Oct 4 2007 1:15 PM Link To This Comment
I think we all wanted to implement these solutions alongside most TS and Citrix implementations. And maybe it is just a matter of us, the technical people, moving a bit to the darker side. Already i see alot more focus on the value for the business and business demands. Maybe as we all get used to the broader perspective, more scenarios in the same solution, it will also become a normal part of our recommendations?

But it will also mean that we have to be broader in our skills and knowledge and with the fear of becoming generalists..

/René
Guest wrote You forgot the functionality that comes...
on Thu, Oct 4 2007 2:50 PM Link To This Comment
... out of Provision Networks. They already provide desktop management configuration and lockdown (Manage-IT and Block-IT) and profile management (MetaProfiles-IT) for the VAS platform. I know it's part of the TS environment we have. Im not sure if it also works in their VDI solution.
Ruben Spruijt wrote Re: A great topic for a future Briforum!
on Thu, Oct 4 2007 3:53 PM Link To This Comment
I wrote this article 3.5 years ago. It's about RES PowerFuse.
http://www.virtuall.nl/articles/PublishedArticles/RES%20PowerFuse%20-%20Lanvision%20-%20English.pdf
I know that last 3.5 years alot of things changed. User Workspace management was needed years ago and it is stil needed. With all the different application and desktop delivery solutions it IS needed!, no Question for me..
Guest wrote Re: Re: A great topic for a future Briforum!
on Fri, Oct 5 2007 4:10 AM Link To This Comment
Hi Ruben,

You can see on Wednesday morning a presentation from AppSense about User Environment Management solutions.

Cheers,
Sascha
AppSense

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Title: So what exactly is “User Environment Management”? Also how AppSense extends Citrix Access Gateway.

In this session, Bas Bremmer and Sascha Goeckel of Appsense will dig into some of the technical details behind User Environment Management – how to achieve a consistent and seamless user experience across multiple app delivery mechanisms. The session includes demos of profile management solutions and how AppSense technology integrates with Access Gateway to extend SmartAcsess capabilities.
Guest wrote Re: You forgot the functionality that comes...
on Fri, Oct 5 2007 8:35 AM Link To This Comment
I asked that question to their CTO during their webinar yesterday. He said they're in the process of porting these features to VDI.
Ruben Spruijt wrote Re: Re: Re: A great topic for a future Briforum!
on Fri, Oct 5 2007 8:52 AM Link To This Comment
You will see me @ wednesday ;-)!
Tony wrote Core
on Fri, Oct 5 2007 9:43 AM Link To This Comment
I think it should be part of the core solution, particularly with VDI. Once you start looking into streamed public desktops with Ardence you really need that hook into the users environment. Not only as an administrator but as a user myself, losing all my desktop "personality" every time I reboot a public vdisk is annoying. I've had really good results with ScriptLogic but I'm still investigating other solutions like AppSense and FlexProfile.
Guest wrote A big difference
on Mon, Oct 8 2007 12:54 AM Link To This Comment
I think there is a big difference between AppSense and JumpingProfiles / Sepago etc...

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