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The Ultimate Guide to Windows 2003 Terminal Server Licensing

Written on Apr 01 2004 522,523 views, 179 comments


by Brian Madden

Licensing is probably the most dreaded component of any environment’s implementation. In Terminal Server environments, you must account for both OS licenses and application licenses. Licensing is really no different from non-Terminal Server environments, except that Windows Server 2003 has technical components that force you to comply with your licenses. If you decide to ignore it, you’ll most likely revisit licensing in 120 days when your Terminal Servers stop functioning because they weren’t licensed properly. Terminal Servers running on Windows 2000 were the first to use Microsoft’s new licensing enforcement technology, and Windows 2003 builds on that.

The only thing that changes faster than technology is the licensing of technology. For that reason, it’s important to note that this licensing paper was up-to-date when it was written. However, it’s possible that the details of Microsoft licensing have changed since then. You can find current information on the web at www.microsoft.com/licensing or www.brianmadden.com.

This paper concludes with a look at how third-party applications are licensed in Terminal Server environments.

Terminal Server 2003 Licensing Overview

Before addressing the technical components that will make up your licensing infrastructure, let’s review Microsoft’s licensing policy. Microsoft licenses can be divided into two groups:

  • Licenses required for each server.
  • Licenses required for clients.

Terminal Server implementation will require both client and server licenses.

Licenses Required for Each Terminal Server

Microsoft requires one license for each server in a Terminal Services environment. This license, known as a “server license,” is just the standard Windows Server 2003 license—you don’t need anything special to run Terminal Server. It is the same license used for the base server operating system of any Windows 2003 server—whether that server is an Exchange Server, a SQL Server, or a file and print server. However, unlike some Microsoft server applications that require specific server licenses (like Exchange or SQL Server), no additional server licenses are required to use Terminal Server.

Some features (as described in require the “Enterprise” edition of Windows Server 2003. For those you would need an Enterprise version of a Windows Server 2003 license for your server.

Microsoft Terminal Server Client Access Licenses

Before you get too excited about the fact that you don’t need a special server license to run Terminal Services, remember that you’ll need a client license for everyone that connects to a Windows 2003 Terminal Server.

Prior to Windows Server 2003, a Terminal Server Client Access License (TS CAL) was required for every computer device that connected to a Terminal Server. This licensing system is known as “per device” licensing. Microsoft defined one “device” as a unique piece of hardware used to access a server. If you had two computers and you accessed the same server from each of them, you had two different devices and needed a separate “per device” license for each. Such was the case even if you never used both devices at the same time. Naturally this method of licensing elicited numerous complaints.

In Windows Server 2003, Microsoft added a second TS CAL option. This “per user” client licensing option allows you to purchase one license for each user account. A user can then access a Terminal Server from multiple client devices using one license. “Per user” TS CALs are associated with user accounts, so two users cannot share a license even if they never log on at the same time. If two users share the same physical computer, then it might be preferable to employ the “per device” license option discussed in the previous paragraph.

Microsoft also offers an “external connector” Terminal Server client access license that you buy for a server and lets you connect an unlimited number of non-employees to the server.
Let’s look at the three different Terminal Server client license options.

Option 1. Terminal Server “Device” Client Access License

Terminal Services licensing has traditionally been handled by the Terminal Server device Client Access License (TS Device CAL). One license is assigned to each specific client device. Each unique client device that accesses a Terminal Server requires a single TS Device CAL.

What is this license good for? If your environment has workstations that are used by a multiple users, as in round-the-clock environments such as factory floors, call centers, and nursing stations, this license is the most effective since your users could share a single TS Device CAL.

Option 2. Terminal Server “User” Client Access License

A Terminal Server user Client Access License (TS User CAL) is assigned to a user account. It then “follows” that user no matter which server he logs on to and no matter which client device he logs on from.

This license is ideal for mobile workers that roam from location to location while using Terminal Servers to access their applications. Also, if your users use multiple client devices (perhaps their work PC and home PC), this model may save your company significant licensing dollars.

Option 3. External Connector License

A challenge to using per-user and per-device CALs is the fact that they have to be assigned to a specific user account or a specific client device. While adequate for employees of the company that bought the license, what happens if a company wants to extend its Terminal Server environment to business partners where the names of users and client devices wouldn’t be known? What happens if a company wants to extend an application via a Terminal Server to the Internet? Technically following the Microsoft terms, you would need to buy a license for each unique user or computer that connected to your server.

Clearly this is not feasible. To address this challenge, Microsoft introduced the External Connector License (ECL), designed to be used when systems are extended to external parties, including business partners and the public.

ECLs are available for all new Microsoft products (except products that are licensed on a per-processor basis since per-processor licenses already account for unlimited users and client devices). In Terminal Server 2003 environments, ECLs provide a simple way to buy “concurrent” user licenses for those who need to connect to your server. If you wanted to open up a server to trading partners, you would buy a Terminal Server ECL.

At this point you might be wondering why you can’t just buy ECLs and forget all this per-user and per-device garbage. Microsoft has strict rules governing the use of ECLs, and users of the TS ECLs cannot be employees of the organization that bought the license.

Microsoft Windows Server Client Access Licenses

Now that you understand the difference between the three Terminal Server-specific CALs, you need to know that each client device also needs a standard Windows Server 2003 CAL. To legally access a Windows 2003 Terminal Server, each client seat requires each of the following licenses:

  • Windows Server 2003 Client Access License.
  • Windows Server 2003 Terminal Server Client Access License.

License 1. Windows Server Client Access License (Server CAL)

Any user needs this Windows Server CAL to access a Windows 2003 server. This license provides the “basic” access rights that allow users to store files, print, and be part of an Active Directory. If you have a unified Active Directory with 5000 users, then you’ll have 5000 Windows Server CALs.

License 2. Windows Server 2003 Terminal Server Client Access License (TS CAL)

We discussed the TS CAL (either per-device, per-user, or External Connector License)  in the previous section. It builds upon the regular Windows Server CAL, adding the legal right for users to access a “remote control” session on a Terminal Server.

If you have a 5000-user Active Directory environment with a few Terminal Servers that provide applications for 300 users, then you’ll need 5000 Windows Server CALs and 300 Terminal Server CALs.

Special Licensing Scenarios

Prior to Windows Server 2003, there were special license rules for specific situations. Microsoft has changed the way these situations are handled with the introduction of Windows Server 2003.

TS CAL Requirements when Connecting to a Terminal Server from Windows XP

Prior to Windows Server 2003, client workstations that ran Windows NT, 2000, or XP Professional had the right to obtain a “free” TS CAL. The only requirement was to purchase a TS CAL for client devices that ran an operating system lower than the Terminal Server operating system. For example, Windows 2000 Professional workstations did not require purchase of a TS CAL to connect to a Windows 2000 Terminal Server since Windows 2000 client devices had the right to obtain a free Windows 2000 TS CAL. Also, since these licenses were backwards compatible, the Windows 2000 TS CAL would also apply if you were using a Windows XP Professional client to connect to a Windows 2000 Terminal Server.

Since Windows XP was released over a year before Windows Server 2003, many people bought Windows XP Professional with the assumption that it would include a “free” Windows Server 2003 TS CAL. However, with the release of Windows 2003, Microsoft removed the “free” TS CAL license that was built-in to Windows XP Professional. Unfortunately, this announcement came well after many organizations bought multiple copies of Windows XP assuming that its free TS CAL would work with Windows 2003 Terminal Servers.

Negative response to this announcement prompted Microsoft grant a free Windows 2003 TS CAL  to anyone who owned a Windows XP Professional license on April 23, 2003 (the day before the release of Windows Server 2003.Does your copy of Windows XP come with a free Windows Server 2003 TS CAL? If you bought it before April 24, 2003, then it does. If you bought if after that it does not, and you’ll have to buy a Windows 2003 TS CAL. (If you had TS CALs that were enrolled in Microsoft Enterprise Agreements or Software Assurance, then you automatically qualified for the Windows 2003 TS CAL upgrade.)

Interestingly, the added TS CAL costs of Terminal Server on Windows Server 2003 has upset some companies so much that they are claiming it as the sole reason that they will keep their Terminal Servers running on Windows 2000.

The Work-at-Home TS CAL

Microsoft licensing agreements also used to provide “work-at-home” licenses for Terminal Servers. These were additional, cheap TS CALs for users that used an office computer to access Terminal Servers and then went home and accessed Terminal Servers from a home PC. With the advent of Windows 2003’s new per-user TS CAL, the work-at-home license is no longer an option.

Similar to TS CALs, any prior work-at-home licenses that are enrolled in an Enterprise Agreement or Software Assurance may be upgraded to current licenses.

Windows 2003 Terminal Server Licensing Components

Windows NT Server 4.0 Terminal Server Edition used the “honor system” for tracking licenses. While you were legally supposed to purchase the correct licenses, there was nothing technically stopping you from connecting more users than you paid for. While the honor system worked well for system administrators and thieves, it has not worked as well for Microsoft shareholders.

As alluded to in the opening sentences of this paper, this system changed when Windows 2000 was released. In Terminal Services for Windows 2000, a Microsoft “Terminal Services Licensing Service” is required to run on one or more servers on your network. This Terminal Services licensing service is responsible for monitoring, distributing, and enforcing TS CAL usage. Microsoft implemented this licensing service as a “service to their customers” who were “deeply concerned that they might accidentally forget to pay for a license or two, every once in awhile.” In Terminal Server environments running on Windows 2000 platforms, this licensing service infrastructure guarantees that there be no “accidentally forgetting” to purchase all the needed licenses.

Windows 2003 Terminal Servers also make use of licensing servers—although the exact manner depends upon for which of three licensing options a server is configured (per device, per user, or the external connector license).

In Windows 2003 environments, there are four main technical components that make up the Terminal Services licensing infrastructure:

  • Terminal Services licensing servers.
  • The Microsoft license clearinghouse.
  • Windows 2000/2003 Terminal Servers.
  • Licenses.

Figure 1. Microsoft licensing components


Let’s take a look at the licensing–related roles of each component.

Terminal Services License Server

The Terminal Services license server is a standard Windows 2003 server with the “Terminal Server Licensing Service” installed. This license server stores digital certificates for TS CALs that are distributed to client devices. Like Windows 2000 environments, a Windows 2003 license server is responsible for issuing licenses and tracking their use.

Microsoft License Clearinghouse

TS license servers and TS client access licenses must be activated be Microsoft before they can be used. The Microsoft license clearinghouse is a large Internet-based certificate authority that authorizes and activates these licenses and servers. Microsoft does this to ensure that no TS CALs are stolen, copied, or pirated (which is why more and more Microsoft software requires activation after you input your license codes).

A TS license server will function before it’s activated via the Microsoft clearinghouse, however, an unactivated license server will only pass out temporary TS CALs that expire after 90 days. In order for a license server to distribute permanent licenses, it must be activated.

Terminal Server

Windows 2003 Terminal Servers understand that client devices must be licensed. To that end, when you enable Terminal Services, the server immediately begins trying to locate a licensing server. It then communicates with the licensing server to ensure that client devices are licensed properly.

Each Terminal Server must be configured to use per-user, per-device, or external connector licenses.

Licenses

The license service that runs on a Windows 2003 server keeps track of seven different types of licenses. These include four types of licenses for Windows 2003 Terminal Servers and three types (for backward compatibility) for Windows 2000 Terminal Servers. The seven types of Windows 2003 client licenses include:

  • Windows Server 2003 TS Device CALs. This license is the per-device CAL that is issued to unique client hardware devices. It allows the client device to access Windows 2000 and 2003 Terminal Servers.
  • Windows Server 2003 TS User CALs. This is the per user CAL that’s assigned to unique user accounts. This license allows a user to access Windows 2000 and 2003 Terminal Servers. If the client device has a valid TS Device CAL, then this TS User CAL is not needed, and vice versa.
  • Windows Server 2003 TS External Connector Licenses. When assigned to a Terminal Server, this ECL license allows unlimited non-employee connections. When this ECL is used, TS Device CALs and TS User CALs are not needed.
  • Windows 2000 TS CALs. These are per-device licenses for devices connecting to Terminal Servers running Windows 2000. 
  • Windows 2000 TS Internet Connector Licenses. These licenses are essentially the Windows 2000 version of the Windows 2003 TS ECL. When assigned to a Windows 2000 Terminal Server, this license allows 200 simultaneous connections. These connections must be made by non-employees, across the Internet, via anonymous user accounts.
  • Windows 2000 Built-in Licenses. These built-in licenses are used for Windows 2000 and Windows XP workstations that are connecting to Windows 2000-based Terminal Servers. Remember from the previous section that Windows 2003 Terminal Servers do not support the use of built-in licenses. (Which is why even if your Windows XP workstations qualify for “free” Windows 2003 TS CALs, you have to obtain TS Devices CALs from Microsoft—they’re not automatically built in.)
  • Temporary Licenses. If a licensing server ever runs out of activated licenses, it will issue temporary licenses to any client devices requesting per-device TS CALs (applicable to Windows 2000 or 2003-based Terminal Servers). The number of temporary TS CALs a licensing server can grant is unlimited, although the temporary CALs themselves expire after 90 days and cannot extended.

The Terminal Services Licensing Service

As you’re starting to see, the Windows 2003’s Terminal Server licensing environment is extremely complex. It’s probably also fairly obvious that the licensing service plays a central role. In Windows 2003, this service builds on the licensing functionality that was available in Windows 2000.

TS Licensing Service Installation Considerations

The TS licensing service is separate from the actual Terminal Server components that allow users to run remote sessions.

In Windows 2003 Terminal Server environments, the TS licensing service must be installed on a Windows 2003 server. That server can be any server in your environment that has a trust path to your Terminal Servers. (i.e. same domain, or trusted domain, or trusted forest, etc.) The license service does NOT have to be a server that’s running Terminal Server. Most companies install the TS licensing service on a standard Windows 2003 file and print server.

The TS licensing service can be installed on any Windows 2003 server. It does not have to be in-stalled on a domain controller. Furthermore, this installation can be done at the time of the OS installation or at any time after that via the Control Panel (Control Panel | Add Remove Pro-grams | Windows Components | Terminal Services Licensing Service).

There is no need to build a dedicated licensing server. The TS licensing service can run on any Windows 2003 server without adversely affecting performance. It adds very little CPU or memory overhead, and its hard disk requirements are negligible. The average memory usage is less than 10MB when active, and the license database will grow in increments of only 5 MB for every 6,000 license tokens issued. The license server does not require Internet access.

TS Licensing Service Scope

As part of the licensing service setup, the installation routine asks if you want to set up the license server for your “Enterprise” or “Domain or Workgroup.” The option chosen here (called the “scope”) dictates how the license server communicates with your Terminal Servers and lets you control which Terminal Servers can receive licenses from your licensing server. You can configure your license server so that it provides licenses for either:

  • An entire Active Directory site. (Enterprise licensing server)
  • An entire domain or workgroup. (Domain/workgroup licensing server).

Enterprise Scope

If you choose the “Enterprise” installation option, your licensing server will respond to a license request from any Terminal Server in the same Active Directory site. If Terminal Servers from multiple domains exist in that Active Directory site, the license server will provide licenses for all of them.

This option requires that your Terminal Servers be part of an Active Directory domain. When the licensing service starts, it registers itself with a domain controller and creates a “TS-Licensing” object in the directory, allowing Terminal Servers from any domain to query a domain controller to locate the license server.

Domain / Workgroup Scope

Choosing the “Your domain or workgroup” option causes the license server to behave differently, depending on whether it’s part of an Active Directory domain.

In AD environments, this choice causes your licensing servers to only respond to license requests from Terminal Servers in the same Active Directory domain. If an Active Directory domain crosses multiple Active Directory sites, the licensing server will fulfill requests from multiple sites. This option is useful in situations where there are multiple business units partitioned into different domains on the same network. A license server from one domain won’t give licenses to clients connecting to Terminal Servers from a different domain.

In non-AD environments, choosing this option means that your license server will not attempt to register itself with a domain controller, and your Terminal Servers will have to find your license servers on their own. (More on this later.)

TS Licensing Server Activation

After the TS licensing service is installed on a server, it must be activated by the Microsoft clearinghouse via the Terminal Services Licensing tool. This activation gives the license server the digital certificate it will use to accept and activate TS CALs.

The license server activation is fairly straightforward (Start | Programs | Administrative Tools | Terminal Services Licensing | Right-click on server | Activate). Activation can be accomplished directly via the Internet or via a web page, fax, or telephone call. If you run the licensing tool on a computer other than the license server, the computer that you are using must have access to the Internet—not the license server.

You must install a TS licensing server within 120 days of using Terminal Services on a Windows 2003 server. (This was increased from 90 days with Windows 2000.) If a Windows 2003 Terminal Server can’t find a license server after it’s been used for 120 days, the Terminal Server will refuse connections to clients without valid TS CALs.

How Terminal Servers find Licensing Servers

Since you can install the licensing service on any Windows 2003 server in your environment, the real fun begins when you try to get your Terminal Servers to talk to your license server(s). Merely installing a license server on your network does not necessarily mean that your Terminal Servers will be able to find it.

License server “discovery” is the technical term for the process by which Terminal Servers locate and connect to licensing servers. As soon as the Terminal Server role is added to a Windows 2003 server, the server immediately begins the discovery process. License server discovery can happen in a number of ways, depending on which of the following environments the Terminal Server finds itself in:

  • No domain (workgroup mode).
  • Windows NT 4.0 domain.
  • Active Directory domain, with the TS license servers operating in domain mode.
  • Active Directory domain, with the TS license servers operating in enterprise mode.

Hard-Coding Preferred License Servers
Regardless of which of these four situations a Terminal Server is in, you always have the option of manually specifying a license server or servers that each Terminal Server should get licenses from. You can manually configure any Terminal Server to get licenses from any license server—there’s no need to stay within domain, subnet, location, or site boundaries.

You can configure a Terminal Server to use a specific license server via the Terminal Server’s registry. Be careful though, because this registry edit is not like most others. In this case, rather than specifying a new registry value and then entering data, you have to create a new registry key (or “folder”). To do this, browse to the following registry location:

HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet\Services\TermService\Parameters\

Add a new key called “LicenseServers.” Underneath the new LicenseServers key, create another key with the NetBIOS name of the license server that you want this Terminal Server to use. You don’t need to add any values or data under this new key.

Add multiple keys for multiple servers if you wish, although the Terminal Server will only communicate with one license server at a time. Once you’re done, reboot the server for it to take affect.

As you’ll see, this manual process is needed in situations where the Terminal Servers cannot automatically “discover” the license servers. It’s also useful if you want to override the default license server that a Terminal Server discovers.

Discovery in Windows NT 4 Domains or Workgroup Environments
In non-Active Directory environments, a Terminal Server first looks to the LicenseServer registry location to see if any license servers have been manually specified.

If the registry key is empty or if the server or servers specified there cannot be contacted, the Ter-minal Server performs a NetBIOS broadcast to attempt to locate a license server. (NetBIOS broadcasts are not routable, so only license servers on the same subnet as the Terminal Server making the broadcast will respond.) If multiple license servers respond, the Terminal Server re-members their names and chooses which it will use exclusively.

Once the Terminal Server picks a license server, the Terminal Server periodically verifies that it exists. (See Figure 2.) If the license server ever fails to respond to the verification poll from the Ter-minal Server, the Terminal Server attempts to connect to one of the other license servers that responded to the original NetBIOS process. If no connection can be made to a license server, the Terminal Server attempts to find a new license server by starting the entire discovery process over again.

Figure 2  Terminal Servers periodically verify that they can contact license servers

Environment Once contact, license server is verified after xxx minutes of no activity If not found, discovery process repeats every:
NT 4 domain or workgroup 120 min 15 min
Domain Mode 120 min 15 min
Enterprise Mode 60 min 60 min

  
Discovery in Active Directory Environments
When a Terminal Server is a member of an Active Directory domain, the license server discovery process is entirely different.

  1. First, the Terminal Server attempts to contact the license server (or servers) specified in its LicenseServers registry key. If a license server is discovered at any point through this process, the remainder of the discovery process is aborted.
  2. If that attempt fails, the server next looks for an enterprise scope licensing server by performing an LDAP query for the following object in its Active Directory site:
    LDAP://CN=TS-Enterprise-License-Server,CN=, CN=sites,CN=configuration,DC=,DC=com
  3. If that attempt also fails, the Terminal Server begins querying every domain controller in the site, looking for “enterprise scope” licensing servers.
  4. If the Terminal Server still has not found a license server, it will query every other domain controller (outside of its site) to see if any are configured as a domain scope license server.
    One thing that you might have noticed about this discovery process is that domain scope license servers must be installed on domain controllers in order for your Terminal Servers to discover them. Domain scope license servers do not register themselves with other domain controllers and Terminal Servers only query domain controllers to see if they are license servers.

There’s nothing wrong with installing a domain scope license server on a non-domain controller. Just be aware than you’ll need to manually configure the registries of your Terminal Servers to find those license servers. Enterprise scope license servers are not affected, since they register themselves with the domain controllers, even when not installed on a domain controller.

If a Terminal Server does not find a license server via this discovery process, the whole process is started over once every hour.

If license servers are found, the Terminal Server keeps a list of them in its registry. Enterprise li-censing servers are stored in the HKLM\Software\Microsoft\MSLicensing\Parameters \EnterpriseServerMulti registry location, and domain licensing servers are stored in the HKLM\Software\Microsoft\MSLicensing\Parameters\DomainLicenseServerMulti registry location. By storing these server names in the registry, a Terminal Server is able to quickly pick a new license server if its primary choice is not available. Once a license server is found, the Terminal Server will only start the discovery process over again if it can’t connect to any of the servers in the registry.

Troubleshooting License Server Discovery
You are likely to run into situations in which one of your Terminal Servers cannot find a license server and the reason is not apparent. Fortunately, the Windows Server 2003 Resource Kit in-cludes a Terminal Server License Server viewer tool, LSVIEW.EXE. LSVIEW is a GUI-based tool that is run on a Terminal Server. It provides you with the names and types of each license server that it can discover.

Figure 3. Microsoft license server discovery process

The Terminal Server 2003 Licensing Process
Let’s take a look now at how the entire licensing process works. The exact process that takes place is different depending on whether the Terminal Server is configured to use device-based or user-based TS CALs.

Terminal Servers Configured for Device-Based TS CALs
When a Terminal Server is configured to use TS Device CALs (Start | Administrative Tools | Ter-minal Services Configuration | Server Settings | Licensing), each client device needs to have its own license.

  1. Terminal Server CALs are purchased and installed into the license database on the (pre-viously activated) TS Licensing Server.
  2. The TS CALs are activated via the Microsoft License clearinghouse. The activated li-censes remain on the license server, waiting for assignment to client devices.
  3. A user makes an RDP connection to the Terminal Server.
  4. Since the Terminal Server is in per device licensing mode, the Terminal Server checks for the device’s TS CAL (in the form of a digital certificate).
  5. If the client device does not present a valid TS CAL, the Terminal Server connects to the license server to obtain one.
  6. If the license server does not have any more TS CALs, it will route the Terminal Server to another license server that does have available TS CALs (if known).
  7. The license server sends the Terminal Server a digital certificate for a temporary 90-day TS CAL.
  8. The Terminal Server passes this certificate down to the client.
  9. The user’s credentials are validated. If the user successfully authenticates, the Terminal Server contacts the license server a second time. This time around, the Terminal Server informs the license server that the TS CAL that was sent to the client should be marked as “valid.” If the user did not successfully authenticate, (i.e. the connection was from an inappropriate user), the Terminal Server will not contact the license server, and the li-cense that was sent out will not be marked “valid.”
  10. The next time that client device connects, it presents its 90-day temporary TS CAL to the Terminal Server.
  11. The Terminal Server contacts the license server. Since the licensing server marked the CAL as valid the first time the user authenticated, the client device’s temporary CAL is up-graded to a full CAL. If, for some reason, all of the license servers have depleted their in-ventories of TS CALs, the client device keeps its temporary 90-day TS CAL certificate. As long as the 90-day certificate has not expired, the client device can still connect, even with no available licenses on any license servers.

An unlicensed client device will always be granted a temporary 90-day TS CAL at the time of its first connection. Only after successful authentication and a second logon is the temporary TS CAL upgraded to a full TS CAL. This two–stage licensing process is used to ensure that TS CALs are only assigned to authenticated users. Previously (before hotfix 287687 or Windows 2000 Ser-vice Pack 3) any user that connected was assigned a full TS CAL, even if he did not belong on the system. The full TS CAL certificate was granted at connection time, before the logon screen even popped up. If a user thought, “Oops, I don’t belong on this system!” it was too late—his client device had already received a full TS CAL certificate, even if the administrator never meant for him to access the system. This circumstance often led to license servers running out of TS CALs.

During this process, if the license server does not respond to the Terminal Server, the Terminal Server will try to connect to one of the other license servers from the list of servers it maintains in the registry that was built as a result of the license server discovery process. If it can’t connect to any of them, it will start the license server discovery process again.
If a client device does not have a TS CAL and the Terminal Server cannot contact a license server, the user’s session will be denied. The only exception to this is for new Terminal Servers. In Win-dows 2003, you have a 120-day “grace period” during which a Terminal Server will function even if it cannot contact a license server. However, 121 days after you install Terminal Services onto a Windows 2003 server, that server must be able to contact a licensing server or no new users will be able to connect. All of this action takes place a soon as the connection is made—before the user even authenticates!

TS CAL License Certificate Storage on Client Devices
As mentioned earlier, when a client device receives a TS Device CAL from a Terminal Server, it receives it in the form of a digital certificate from a license server. For this reason you must acti-vate the license server with the Microsoft clearinghouse (which is just a certificate authority). The digital certificate is an actual certificate copied to the client device (even with Windows CE). Once a client device connects to a Terminal Server, a TS CAL digital certificate is transferred from the license server to the client device. The license server loses one of its licenses from its in-ventory, and the client device has the digital certificate that it can present to any Terminal Server on future connections.

The digital certificate is stored in different locations depending on the operating system. On 32-bit Windows platforms, the TS CAL digital certificate is stored in the registry at HKLM\Software\Microsoft\MSLicensing\Store\License00x.

Anyone who has been in the computer industry for more than five minutes can probably spot a potential flaw in this plan. Client devices tend to break. Windows-based terminals have their ROMs reflashed. Operating systems are reinstalled on workstations. PCs are reimaged. Whenever this happens, the TS CAL digital certificate stored on the client device is lost forever. The TS CAL doesn’t exist on the license server after it’s transferred to a client device. When that client connects back to a Terminal Server, it has no digital certificate to present. The server thinks that it has no license, and instructs the license server to issue a new TS CAL in the form of a new digital certificate. In effect, that one client device ends up consuming two TS CALs—the old one that was lost and the new one that was just issued. If the client device were reset again, a third TS CAL would be used.

In Windows 2003 (and Windows 2000 SP3), when a Terminal Server requests a TS CAL from the license server for a client device, a full TS CAL certificate is granted with an expiration date randomly selected between 52 and 89 days from the current date. The license server keeps track of the expiration date and it is also embedded into the digital certificate that represents the actual license passed down to the client device.

Every time the client device connects to a Terminal Server, it presents its TS CAL certificate to the server. The server checks not only whether the client device has a valid certificate, but also the expiration date of that certificate. If the expiration date of the certificate is within 7 days of the current date, the Terminal Server connects to the license server to renew the license for another random period of 52 to 89 days.

The license server also tracks the expiration date of TS CALs. If for some reason the client’s CAL is never renewed and expires, the license server returns that TS CAL to the inventory of available unused licenses. If a client device with a TS CAL were to blow up or be rebuilt, the license server would automatically add the TS CAL back into its available license pool after it expired (a maxi-mum of 89 days).

If the Terminal Server is not able to obtain a TS CAL renewal when the client device’s TS CAL certificate expires after the 52 to 89 days, the client is denied access. A temporary 90-day certifi-cate cannot replace a full certificate that has expired, but this shouldn’t ever be a problem for you (unless you don’t have enough TS CALs).

Someone at Microsoft deserves an award for the fact that the temporary TS CALs are valid for 90 days and the full TS CALs are valid for a maximum of 89 days—conveniently one day less than the temporary licenses. Consider the following scenario:

Assume that a client device successfully authenticates to a Terminal Server and is granted a full TS CAL certificate that was (worst case) randomly selected to expire at the 89 day maximum. When it passes down the certificate, the license server decrements its total TS CAL license count by one, also noting that particular certificate’s expiration date. Now, assume that a catastrophic event oc-curs at the client, causing its local operating system to be reinstalled and its local TS CAL certifi-cate to be lost. When that client authenticates to a Terminal Server, the Terminal Server will request a new TS CAL certificate from the license server and the license server (again) decrements its TS CAL inventory by one. At this point there have been two TS CAL licenses given out to that one client, but the first one will never be renewed because the certificate was lost when the client was rebuilt. After 89 days (the randomly selected duration of the first certificate), the first TS CAL is returned to the pool by the license server.

The administrator in this situation probably bought just enough TS CALs to cover the exact number of client devices. He did not buy extras to cover the 52 – 89 day period during which one client device had two CALs assigned. By purchasing the exact amount of TS CALs, the li-cense server would not have any more TS CALs to give out when the client device asked for the new TS CAL certificate after the first was lost. In this case, the license server would grant a tem-porary 90-day TS CAL certificate to the client device because the client device appears to the server as a brand new machine.

Because the temporary TS CAL certificate is always valid at least one day longer then the full CAL certificate (90 days versus a maximum of 89 days), the old, lost full TS CAL will always be returned to the inventory on the license server at least one day before the temporary TS CAL cer-tificate would expire. For example, after day 88, the client device’s temporary TS CAL certificate will expire in 2 days, but the license server is tracking the expiration of the full TS CAL that was originally granted for 89 days. That full TS CAL only has 1 day left before it expires. The following day, when the client device’s temporary TS CAL certificate has only 1 day remaining, the license server will add the original TS CAL back in its inventory pool, making it available to grant to the client as a permanent license for another random period of 52 – 89 days.

True geeks will enjoy tracing the entire licensing flow in Windows 2003 Terminal Server envi-ronments in Figure 4.

Multiple License Timeframes Explained
Throughout this license distribution and acquisition process, we have discussed two different li-cense timeframes. While both are related to Windows 2003 Terminal Services licensing, they are actually completely different.

  • A Windows 2003 Terminal Server will work without a license server for 120 days.
  • If a license server runs out of TS CALs (licenses), it will issue 90-day temporary ones.

The first item relates to the presence of a license server. If a Terminal Server cannot locate a li-cense server, it will still allow unlicensed client devices to log on. The Terminal Server itself does not grant 90-day temporary licenses if it cannot find a license server. Instead, if a license server cannot be located, the Terminal Server simply “looks the other way” for 120 days. After the grace period ends, unlicensed client device connections are refused. This 120-day countdown begins the first time a Terminal Services client device connects to the server.
From a legal standpoint, you must have a valid TS CAL for each client device that connects to a Terminal Server, even during the first 120 days. The 120-day threshold is not a free evaluation period. Rather, it gives you a chance to set up your Terminal Server environment and get the bugs worked out before you activate your license server.

The second item relates to the license server itself. If, over the course of business, a TS licensing server runs out of licenses, it will begin to grant 90-day temporary license certificates to client devices. Unlike Windows 2000, Windows 2003 license servers do not have to be activated to hand out 90-day temporary TS CALs.

Figure 4. The Terminal Server 2003 Device-Based TS CAL Licensing Process

These temporary licenses can only be replaced by full TS CAL licenses—they cannot be replaced by additional temporary licenses. There is no limit to the number of temporary licenses that a li-cense server can grant. Also, the 90-day timer for the expiration of the TS CALs is client specific, meaning that different temporary licenses can expire on different days—even if they were all granted by the same license server.

Terminal Servers configured for User-Based CALs
Everything discussed in the previous section is applicable only when Terminal Servers are config-ured in “per device” licensing mode. When a user connects to a Terminal Server configured in “per user” licensing mode, a different process takes place.

  1. When Terminal Services is installed on a Windows 2003 server, the server verifies that it can find (via the discovery process outlined previously) a license server.
  2. There is no Step Two.

That’s right. All this TS CAL digital certificate, temp license, transfer mumbo-jumbo only applies when Terminal Servers are configured for “per device” licenses. With per user licenses, all you have to do is make sure that the Terminal Server can find a license server. (The license server doesn’t even have to be activated!) Other than periodically verifying that it exists, there’s no com-munication between a “per user” configured Terminal Server and a license server.
How did this come to be? When Windows 2003 was in beta testing, Microsoft was planning to offer a “per processor” licensing model. At the last minute (with Release Candidate 2), Microsoft changed its mind and decided to go with a “per user” option instead. This decision was a popular move on Microsoft’s part. The only problem was that it was so late in the game that Microsoft didn’t have time to build the “per user” technical license compliance infrastructure (although you can bet we’ll see it in future versions of Windows).

Designing your Licensing Server Environment
Now that we’ve reviewed the details of how licensing works, let’s look at some of the issues affect the design of your TS licensing servers.

  • Selecting which Terminal Servers can access which license servers.
  • Licensing Terminal Servers in mixed Windows 2000 and Windows 2003 environments.

Enforcing which Terminal Servers are Authorized to Receive Licenses
A new feature of Windows 2003 allows you to specify security permissions for your license servers. That is, you can specify which Terminal Servers are authorized to pass out licenses from a specific license server.

This feature is useful to organizations that manage licensing by business unit or specific users groups, since it can prevent one department from “stealing” another department’s licenses.
You must first enable this security feature via a policy applied to the license server (Computer Configuration | Administrative Templates | Windows Components | Terminal Services | Licens-ing). Once this functionality is enabled, a local group called “Terminal Services Computers” is created on the license server. The License Server will only respond to license requests from servers (or global groups containing servers) whose computer accounts are a member of this group.

When this policy is enabled on a license server that’s also a domain controller, the group that’s created is a domain local group (since domain controllers don’t have local groups). Therefore, if you really plan on managing your licenses by department, it’s probably not the best idea to install the licensing service on a domain controller.

If you want to manage licenses by business unit, it’s usually easiest to install the license server in “domain or workgroup mode” onto a server that’s “owned” by that business unit. Then, activate the License Server Security via Group Policy. Once this policy is applied, add the Business Unit’s Terminal Servers into the local License Server Security Group, ensuring that only authorized Terminal Servers can receive Terminal Service CALs. This is also a good way to prevent other de-partments or even rogue Terminal Servers from accessing your license service and using up CALs.

Licensing in Mixed Windows 2000 / 2003 Environments

If you’re migrating from Windows 2000 or if you’re running a 2000/2003 mixed environment, there are a few licensing issues to consider when planning your design.

Preventing TS CAL License Upgrades
Since it’s possible for a single Windows 2003-based license server to distribute both Windows 2000 and Windows 2003 TS CALs, you need to give some special thought to environments where both are used.

Your Windows 2000 Terminal Servers communicates with your Windows 2003 license server and request licenses from it, and your Windows 2003 license server mimics a Windows 2000 license server.

Because Microsoft licenses are backwards-compatible, the Windows 2003 license server can technically issue either a Windows 2000 or 2003 TS CAL for clients wanting to connect to a Windows 2000 Terminal Server.

The license server will always try to provide the exact match for the version of the license. But what happens when a client device requires a TS CAL to connect to a Windows 2000 Terminal Server and the license server only had 2003 TS CALs available? Should the license server “waste” a 2003 CAL on the Windows 2000 server, or should it provide a 90-day temporary 2003 license? If the client already had a temporary CAL, should the server “upgrade” it to a 2003 permanent TS CAL, or should it deny the user’s connection?

The desired outcome of this situation depends upon your business environment. You can specify which behavior you want your licensing server to follow. This functionality is controlled via the “Prevent License Upgrade” policy (Group Policy | Computer Configuration | Administrative Templates | Windows Components | Terminal Services | Licensing).

As the name implies, enabling this policy prohibits a licensing server from ever using a Windows 2003 TS CAL for a Windows 2000 environment. Chapter 6 in out book Terminal Services for Windows Server 2003: Advanced Technical Design Guide explains how policies are used and implemented in Terminal Server environments.

Upgrading a Windows 2000 Licensing Server
If you have an existing Windows 2000 license server, it’s possible to upgrade it to Windows 2003 while preserving the existing license database. During the upgrade from 2000 to 2003, the license service that was installed will be upgraded and the database content will be migrated into the new license database. After the upgrade to Windows 2003, you’ll need to reactivate your license server, just as if you had installed a new license server. This can be accomplished by using the “Reactivate Server” option from the action menu in the Terminal Services Licensing Manager.

Managing your TS Licensing Servers

Once your environment grows to become a Terminal Server powerhouse serving thousands of customers with hundreds of servers, you’ll need a few tools to ensure that everything is going according to plan with regards to licensing.
Managing Windows 2003 Terminal Services license servers should not take much of your time. There are only a few tasks you’ll need to know about:

  • Adding new licenses to the license pool.
  • Administering the license server.
  • Reporting on license usage.
  • Troubleshooting client device license acquisition.

Adding Licenses to a TS License Server
All newly–purchased Terminal Server Client Access Licenses must be installed into a TS license server database. Since Windows Server 2003 also supports Windows 2000 licenses, you can also install your Windows 2000 TS CALs onto a 2003 server. (These licenses cannot be used for Windows 2003 Terminal Servers, but at least you’ll be able to centrally manage all your licenses.)

TS CALs are purchased just like any Microsoft license. Traditionally, if you bought a Client Access License pack, that pack only contained a license agreement—nothing more than a piece of paper. Now when you buy a TS CAL license pack, it comes with a 25-character license code. This code must be entered into the TS Licensing Wizard for the TS licensing servers. If you buy licenses through a volume license agreement such as Select or an Enterprise Agreement, then you’ll need to enter that agreement number into the Licensing Wizard when you add the licenses.

After the licenses have been installed, you must activate them. Licenses are activated via the same three methods you use to activate the license server (Internet, web, or phone). Once activated, the licenses are ready to be distributed to client devices. Clients that previously received the 90-day temporary licenses will be upgraded to full licenses the next time they connect.

In some situations, adding or removing licenses to a license server will cause that server to notify other license servers.

  • A domain scope license server will notify other license servers within the same domain.
  • An enterprise scope license server will notify other license servers in its Active Directory site.
  • An enterprise scope license server will notify other license servers in its domain.

In all of these cases, adding or removing licenses to a Windows 2000 or Windows 2003 license server will cause the server to notify the appropriate Windows 2003 license servers as mentioned. A Windows 2003 license server will not notify a Windows 2000 license server.
As outlined earlier in this paper, this notification allows the license servers to redirect client requests to other license servers should the first server run out of licenses.

Remotely Administering License Servers
The TS licensing service is mainly a “set it and forget it” kind of service. Theoretically, it only needs to be administered when new licenses are purchased or old licenses are removed.
However, there are times when it would be convenient to administer TS licensing servers remotely. For technical reasons, the TS Licensing Tool cannot be run via a remote Terminal Services session. However, this tool can be executed locally on any Windows 2003 computer and used to connect back to one or more TS license servers. To do this, copy the licmgr.exe and the lrwizdll.dll files from the \system32\ directory of the TS licensing server to the \system32\ directory of the computer you would like to use. Run licmgr.exe to use the tool.
As was mentioned previously, running the tool in this manner can be helpful when activating TS licensing servers or TS CAL packs. During the activation, the machine running the TS Licensing Tool needs access to the Internet—not the actual license server itself. This method works well in scenarios in which the Terminal Servers are not connected to the Internet but there are certain administrator workstations connected to the Internet and the internal network.
Maintaining TS license servers is simple. One TS licensing console can connect to all of the license servers in your environment, facilitating centralized administration.

Reporting on License Usage
The Terminal Server License Reporting tool, lsreport.exe, from the Windows Server 2003 Resource Kit can be used to view and analyze the data contained within the licensing server database. This tool outputs the information in the database into a tab-delimited format that allows you to create reports of who is using your licenses. Run “lsreport /?” from a command prompt for a list of options.

Uncovering Client Device TS CAL Details
The Terminal Server Client License Test tool, TSCTST.EXE, is a command-line client-side tool that displays information about a client device’s local TS CAL. Also included in the Windows Server 2003 Resource Kit, it provides the following information about a license:

  • Issuer
  • Scope
  • Issued to computer
  • Issued to user
  • License ID
  • Type and Version
  • Valid From
  • Expiration date

By using the “/A” switch, the following additional information is displayed:

  • Server certificate version
  • Licensed product version
  • Hardware ID
  • Client platform ID
  • Company name

This tool is used from the command line of a client device. It’s useful when you need to locate information about the TS CAL certificate that’s stored locally on that device.

Application Licensing

All this work on the Terminal Server licensing might almost make you forget that you have to properly license your applications as well. While the purpose of this book is to focus on Terminal Server, there are some common threads worth pointing out regarding application licensing.
Because there are so many different ways that applications can be licensed, it’s impossible go into specifics here. However, in almost all cases, the application usage license is tied in some way to the number of users or client devices. Most application licenses are not linked to the number of times the application is installed because the application vendors don’t want you to buy one copy of the application for each Terminal Server that you have and then make that application available to hundreds of users per server. Most applications today have licensing agreements that fall into one of two categories:

  • Per Named User. One license for each user that could execute the application.
  • Per Concurrent User. One license for each concurrent copy of the application that is executed.

Enforcing Named User Application Licenses
Applications that are licensed “per named user” require that you have a license for each user that could access the application. If you have 100 users with access to an application but no more than 10 ever connect at the same time, you still need to purchase 100 application licenses. Most Microsoft applications are licensed this way, in addition to many expensive line-of-business applications.

The key to properly enforcing per named user application licenses is permitting or preventing users from being able to access the applications. An easy way to do this is to create a domain group with all the user accounts of the users that will need to access the application. Then, add these users to the Remote Desktop users group on the Terminal Server hosting the application so that only members of that domain group can use it. This can also be done by setting NTFS permissions on the executable if users that don’t use this application connect to the same Terminal Server.

Another option is to create a Software Restriction Policy to restrict that application to only a certain group of users. This policy could be applied in the Group Policy at the OU level for a large number of Terminal Servers.

By restricting access to the application itself, you guarantee that only appropriate users will ever use the application. When it comes time to pay for your application licenses, all you have to do is count the number of users that are in your application group and buy that number of licenses.

Enforcing Concurrent User Application Licenses
Applications whose licenses are based on the number of concurrent users only require that an application license is purchased for each concurrent connection. If you have 100 users that have access to an application but no more than 10 ever connect at the same time, you only need to purchase 10 licenses. Your company’s accountants will appreciate applications that are based on concurrency. You will probably not appreciate them because they are harder to enforce from a technical standpoint. Within Terminal Server, there are two ways to enforce concurrent users:

  • Limit the number of connections on the Terminal Server hosting the application. This can be done in the Terminal Server Configuration utility by editing the RDP connection properties.
  • Create a batch file that writes to a flag file before an application is launched. That batch file can be configured to check the flag file to see how many other instances of the application are running. For environments in which applications are executed across more than one server, the flag file can be stored on a network drive. When users quit the application, the flag file is updated to reflect the user change. The only problem with this (other than the complexity of writing the scripts in the first place) is that the flag file is not updated if users do not exit the application properly.

Hardware Dongles in Terminal Server Environments

The only additional item worth mentioning about application licensing relates to applications that require a hardware key. If you have an application that requires a hardware key, or “dongle,” it probably won’t work on a Terminal Server. Microsoft has intentionally disabled this functionality because the sole purpose of a hardware key is to prevent multiple users from using an application, and Terminal Services’ sole purpose is to allow multiple users to use an application.

If your hardware key vendor did not use the standard Microsoft APIs when writing the application, the hardware key may work on a Terminal Server. If this is the case for your application you must ensure that its use in a Terminal Server environment is acceptable from a licensing standpoint


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Guest wrote Genius...
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:21 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by urj on April 5, 2004
... as the complete new book of TS WS2K3
Guest wrote How long can I use termainalservices befor I realy need to buy a TSCAL?
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:21 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by Freddie LArsson on April 7, 2004
Hi...
My name is Freddie Larsson, I live in Sweden and my passion is SBC.
I'm trying to figure out the license model of 2003 and I have some questions for you.

First to show you if I have understood the model right.
If I use a 2003 TS without a licensing server I can connect users for 120 days.
If I then install a licensing server BUT NOT activating it I can connect users to me TS for 90 days more, the key question is if I now activate the licensing server and connect user even 120 days more?

I find your site for a few weeks ago and I have to say you seem to know what you are talking about, and your site is were god, I think i can learn much from you.
I have been working whit SBC sense win 2000 and have really find what I want to work whit, tanks for a were god site.

I read the book about 2003 terminal services in December, that was also a god source.

One last thing, maybe it would take to much time but what if you and us that are reading you site could make a special newsgroup or part of your site were we address specific application issues, for example: configurations, fixes and tricks.
What do you think about that?

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Guest wrote 120 and 90 day limits explained
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:21 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by Brian Madden on April 7, 2004
I've written about this before, but the main thing is that your Terminal Server can go 120 days without needed a license server. Then, once it finds a license server, it can get a 90-day temporary license from that server. Therefore, you could go 120 + 90 days.
Guest wrote TS CALS user vs device
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:21 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by Norm on April 14, 2004
My win 2003 ts licensing server seems to be handing out 120 temp device licenses even though I have valid ts cals for users. What happens when my temp device licenses run out? will my user tscals kick in?

Thanks
Norm
Guest wrote Deactivate and uninstall license server addon...can't reactivate license packs!
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:22 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by ShackDaddy on April 14, 2004
I have four 5-user 2003 TS-CAL tokens (gotten via legacy transition route). I installed License Server on our solo 2003 server and installed the license paks. The rest of the domain is W2K. The clients were getting "Can't find license server" errors, so I deactivated the license server and uninstalled it, then reinstalled it and put in that registry fix to look at itself for licenses. When I went to readd the license packs, the Clearinghouse returned the message that those keys were invalid because they were already activated. But they aren't active on my server or anywhere else! Am I supposed to call Microsoft and have them deactivate them, or is there a better way to resolve this issue? Thanks!
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Guest wrote solution for terminale server permanent licensing
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:22 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by dheeresh on April 15, 2004
i have a windows2003 terminale server and we don't have cal license that server is runing with temporary licensing for three months now i need solution for permanent licensing in that server this is very urgent
Guest wrote Don't go searching it elsewhere, its wright here, our better buy the book, then you have it all....
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:22 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by an anonymous visitor on April 21, 2004
Hi Brian,

I bought the book you co-authored with Ron Oglesby.
I must congratulate you, you did a very good job.

Its amazing. My EDP-manager called all sorts of people resellers, vars even Microsoft people, and they did not know!Let along were in the possibility of explaining it!
Especially the existens of ECL (External Connector License) is a non-event!

A halfhour of reading in your very fine Design Guide explained all!


Guest wrote Deactivate and uninstall license
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:22 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by Ron Oglesby on April 21, 2004
yes call the clearing house and tell them what you had to do. Its simple, just a pain.
Guest wrote Checking if USER TS CAL's are being assigned
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:31 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by PIP. on August 16, 2004
I have configured our Windows 2003 Terminal services Licensing Server with 50 USER TS CAL's but they do not register as being used. I have found out that you any user based TS CAL's will not get registered due to a design fault but how can I test that they are being used and that after 120 days the system will not suddenly stop working. Tks. Pip.
Guest wrote License discovery when installed on a member server...
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:31 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by Martin Vliem on August 31, 2004
L.S.,

I did not find someting about this (from Microsoft "Terminal Server Licensing.doc"-2003) in your article. Do you know if this is true?

..Although it is possible for non-domain controllers to be license servers in Windows Server 2003, it is important to note that domain license servers are not automatically discovered. You must configure a preferred license server on all terminal servers that need to communicate with non-Domain controller license servers configured as domain license servers. Enterprise domain license servers deployed on non-domain controllers are automatically discovered. ... End quote.

Best regards,

Martin Vliem
Capgemini
Guest wrote Why is Microsoft so lame?
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:49 PM Link To This Comment
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Why is Microsoft so lame?
Guest wrote Why is Microsoft so lame?
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:49 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by an anonymous visitor on September 9, 2004
Should have made this whole thing easier!
Guest wrote You said that right, brother!!!
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Guest wrote I cannot believe it
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This message was originally posted by an anonymous visitor on September 30, 2004
As if they needed the bucks! Usoft's paranoa has made this far too complicated. We only have two remote users and have to have one machine for the licenses and another for the Terminal Server - Complete overkill. It seems the rules changed fairly early on disallowing the two servers to be the same machine. Low cost of ownership - popycock!
Guest wrote THANK YOU!
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:50 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by an anonymous visitor on October 4, 2004
Thanks so much for the informative article!
Guest wrote Once again brian you've saved the day
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Excellent read, my organization is struggling to find a TSL solution, and you've answered all of our questions....
Guest wrote Regular User CALS deactivated .... how?
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:52 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by unciatim on October 8, 2004
In a bout of late nite stupidity, I installed regular user CALS for Windows 2003 Small Business Server on the wrong server and now need to remove them from the wrong one and install them in the right one. MS wants to charge me $245 tech support to tell me how to do this after i just spend thousands on multiple OS copies. Kinda pissed. Does anyone know how to unistall them? MS has no problems letting me install them on the new server (according to their licensing dept.), I just need to get them uninstalled first. Any info is much appreciated...
Guest wrote Microsoft - Shame shame shame..
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:52 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by an anonymous visitor on October 12, 2004
1. This crap about piracy is a two way street. How much did MS steal from the public in beta testing time for their R&D!

2. How much money did they steal from businesses by selling software that was broken and did not perform as specified?

3. How much money did they steal from EVERYONE by delivering products which were CLEARLY and almost INTENTIONAL left open for exploitation by hackers!

4. How much time and money are they wasting now with this crap making us the police for their stupid software.

5. How much time did they waste by backing SCO to go after the Linux community?

6. Read about Palladium and MS's lust for total control of your PC experience. Look out folks.

7. Who does MS think they are to make it extremely difficult to move your software from one machine to the next?

8. Piracy my butt. I can't tell you the number of Windows 95 licenses WE WERE FORCED TO BUY OR THE VENDOR WOULD NOT SELL US A PC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9. Anyone who acts like MS is even the slightest bit correct in their approach is simply foolish and gullable. By the way, there is no such word as Gullable. It does not even exist.

10. To those of you just trying to do your job, I understand.

11. To those of you just trying to do your job and you make excuses for MS, get a life and try Linux.



Thank you,


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Guest wrote 5 servers with 5 cals - can they be added together so one machine is in charge of all?
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:52 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by an anonymous visitor on October 25, 2004
I have 5 servers with 5 CALS each. Can they be added together so that one machine can be in charge of all of them? If so, how? -- <br><br>

I also have 2 machines with SBS2003 and accidentally chose "per server licensing". It also installed Active Directory as well so I ran dcpromo to demote the domain because I already have a Windows2000 Domain Controller. Now none of the licensing works on either of these machines. <br> How can I change this to "per seat" licensing and get the licensing module to work again? <br>

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you
Guest wrote Excellent Article
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:52 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by Mickey on November 3, 2004
I would like to thank the auther for easing my frustration and explaining well and in plain English the operation of terminal services
Guest wrote Great Article!
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:52 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by Merando on November 4, 2004
Just want to thank you for the excellent work you've done in this paper. You obviously know what you're talking about. I'm just investigating TS right now, spending time in the lab and researching on the net, and your article cleared up a number of questions for me in regards to licensing. Bottom line for the moment is if our apps work in W2K environment, then that's what we'll go with as the clients are all W2K or XP, and there won't be any client TS Cal's to buy. You can be sure that if the project is approved I'm buying your book!
Thanks again!
Guest wrote 2000 upgrade 2003 server and license expired
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:52 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by Chris on November 8, 2004
After reading this article I am still getting no where with the expired license issue I have. We upgraded from Server 2000 to Server 2003 and the new server found the license informaiton and loaded it. However 87 days later we are getting messages that the license's will expire. On my 2003 server box it shows 47 Server 2000 license as built-in. All of the 2003 licenses says Temporary. can some please help me!!!

Thanks
Guest wrote Excellent Overview
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:52 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by Reddog on November 13, 2004
The exact information I was looking for and with such great detail. You made this complicated process much easier for me to understand. This allows me to make a better licensing decision and to get the most bang for the buck on those licenses.
Guest wrote Thanks for the article
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:57 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by Nigel on November 15, 2004
I've just spent a few days going back and forth with distributors and Microsoft re licensing issues and then I came upon your article on the Web only to find it had the answers which I have been finding so hard to get. Also I am having an issue finding my license Server so the section on this will prove very useful. Thanks again.
Guest wrote Moving the 2003 Licensing Server
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:57 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by Robert on November 16, 2004
Is there any concerns moving the licensing server to another 2003 server? The server we used has had numerous issues. Any help would be great.

Thanks,
Rob
Guest wrote Informative
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:57 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by Tim on November 19, 2004
Thank you for a very informative article. I, like many of your readers, am frustrated with Microsoft's licensing schemes. Unfortunately, when they are the only game to play we have to play by their rules. As soon as there is another game, Linux, then I will play that one. Until then I won't "BASH" Microsoft!
Guest wrote thank you.only now and only in this site i understand terminal server licensing.
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:57 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by Lollo on November 24, 2004
Guest wrote Great - just one question though
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:57 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by Wendy on November 30, 2004
Thank you - your article makes far more sense than anything I have read by MS. One last question though - if you have bought an External Connector License for you Terminal Services Server do you need to buy Windows CALs for external customers who will access the server too? And do you need to buy an External Connector License for each server thay may use, like DCs or an SQL server??
Thanks
Guest wrote Answers to Questions
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:57 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by Brian Madden on December 4, 2004
Please don't post questions here. Instead, post them to the forum at forum.brianmadden.com.
Guest wrote Good Article
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:57 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by Liquid Learning on December 5, 2004
Thanks for the great article. Finally everything in one place.
Guest wrote Remote Admin vs. Application Server mode
on Sun, Dec 12 2004 1:57 PM Link To This Comment
This message was originally posted by an anonymous visitor on December 6, 2004
I have limited experience with Win2K3 TS at this point (soon to change). You have made no metion (that I could find) of Remote Admin mode vs Application Server mode. In Windows 200 TS licensing was only enforced when the server was places in Application Server mode. Leaving the server in Remote Administration mode eliminated the need for a license server, but limited you to 2 concurrent sessions which I believe must be Admin accounts.

Licensing is such a pain...add in Citrix and the fun just increases. Very well written article by the way. Microsoft should be so knowledgable about their own product!
Carl Farrington wrote To summarise...
on Tue, Dec 28 2004 5:38 PM Link To This Comment
Go to Terminal Services Configuration, set 'Licensing' to 'Per User'.

Job done ;)

Great article, I'll have to buy the book. I've (tried to) read some seriously unfriendly IT books. The writing here is great.
Guest wrote Help! Windows 2003 & Windows 2000 Terminal Server Licenses
on Thu, Jan 6 2005 5:13 PM Link To This Comment
Please excuse my ignorance of this subject, but I am confused about Windows 2003 TS Licensing. We are currently in the process replacing an old server with a new server running Windows 2003 Server. The second server in this remote office is a Windows 2000 Server/Terminal Server. We have two servers in our home office-one running Windows 2000 Server and an old one running Windows NT. We are purchasing a 10 user license for Windows 2003 Server. What do I do about Terminal Servers Licenses? The pllan is to migrate all of the applications in our remote office to the new 2003 server. Can we use our current terminal server licenses? Do we need to upgrade the 2000 Server to 2003? Or should we just purchase Terminal Server CALs for the Windoows 2003 server?

Thanks very much in advance!

-William Block
Jos Bell wrote RE: Help! Windows 2003 & Windows 2000 Terminal Server Licenses
on Fri, Jan 7 2005 2:28 AM Link To This Comment
Have you read Brian's ultimate guide to licensing:
http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?ID=154

But in short:
You cannot use your current 2000 licenses for a windows 2003 server, if you decide to upgrade you will have to purchase licenses for all client devices or users. Depending on wether you want to use licenses per-device or per-user.

You do not need to upgrade the 2000 TS server, a 2003 license server can issue licenses for a windows 2000 TS.


Jos.
Guest wrote Great work. thanks
on Fri, Jan 7 2005 4:22 AM Link To This Comment
Great article, just like everything else i have read from you so far.

Removing the built-in licenses in 2k3 is definetly increasing the costs of WTS Farms. And many of them might be installed to save IT Costs.
But with TS Server license is built into Server OS and TSCAL built into most Client OS they probably didnt sell too many TSCALs. Only Non MS and W9x Clients needed to buy them. Now everyone has to.
Guest wrote TS Licensing
on Mon, Jan 10 2005 11:48 AM Link To This Comment
I was concerned about a PC reimage, etc., permanently consuming a TS CAL. From your article, I understand that TS CAL licensing is identical in concept to DHCP licensing of IP addresses. IP addresses not used within a certain time period are returned to the pool. So it is with TS CALs. Right?
Guest wrote remote access locked and unable to control win2003
on Sat, Jan 15 2005 4:19 AM Link To This Comment
PLEASE HELP:
I have a win2003 server. Only to clients have external remote access to the server. Suddenly I cann't control the server anymore. It's like the server has "shut-down". If i reboot the server i can use the server for about 5hours. Then i lockes again. Can this problem have something to do with TS?

Hope you guys can solve my problem.

/kafir
I.J. de Mes wrote RE: TS Licensing
on Fri, Jan 21 2005 5:39 AM Link To This Comment
Hi there,

as far as I know the following applies:

(1) If there are no more license tokens available, a temporary license token will be issued, which is valid for 90 days. The ‘lost’ token will become available on the license server 52-89 days after it was originally issued. After this period, the license token will be issued to the device the next time it connects to the terminal server.

(2) If license tokens are available, a new license token will be issued to the newly formatted device. The ‘lost’ token will become available on the license server 52-89 days after it was originally issued, for another device to acquire.

\\ijdemes
Brian Madden wrote RE: TS Licensing
on Fri, Jan 21 2005 1:44 PM Link To This Comment
Yes, this is correct.

Brian
Guest wrote Re: Why is Microsoft so lame?
on Fri, Feb 25 2005 11:14 AM Link To This Comment
Opposed to popular belief, money makes you lame. So microsoft is very very very lame.
Guest wrote user-based CAL licensing
on Fri, Feb 25 2005 11:49 AM Link To This Comment
So the whole bit about user based CALs not being technically enforced at this time. Does that mean I won't see them being issued from the license server?
Guest wrote Windows 2000 TS lic server and windows 2003 TS server ?
on Fri, Mar 4 2005 8:54 AM Link To This Comment
Hi all
This i understand :
You do not need to upgrade the 2000 TS server, a 2003 license server can issue licenses for a windows 2000 TS.

But can i still have my Windows 2000 TS licencing server, and add my TS2003 cal per device to that one.
do i need to add TS2003 server cal to my Windows 2000 TS licencing server ?

please help ...

/chakib
Guest wrote The bomb
on Thu, Mar 10 2005 9:59 AM Link To This Comment
I have just registered because over the past 2-3 years of Citrix Admin, I have found myself continually returning to this site for education. Thanks, Brian and others.

-JReynolds
jade hutchins wrote Help - Terminal server licensing (windows 2000/2003 server)
on Thu, Mar 31 2005 11:37 PM Link To This Comment
Hi guys, and Gals..

I have a site that has a windows 2000 server (ts license server / domain controller)
Also a windows server 2003 (member server / terminal server)
I spent some time trying to install windows 2003 ts device cals win 2003 server - failed. contacted microsoft licensing tech support and was told that in order for me to install licenses, i will have to upgrade windows 2000 server to windows 2003. Does this sound right to any of yous. Is it possible to change license server to AD sites and services to use windows 2003 server as license server, then install ts license. Any feed back will be MUCH APPRICIATED.

CHEERS
Guest wrote TS licence question
on Tue, Apr 5 2005 6:29 PM Link To This Comment
Thanks Brian for simplifying the whole TS licence minefield!

One quick question is: If connecting to a Win2003 server using a Wyse Winterm, (1 server and 1 user for this example), am I correct in saying the only licences required are:

1 x Server 2003,
1 x 2003 CAL,
1 x 2003 TS CAL

Is a Windows XP Prof licence required. One of our reseller seemed to this it was?

Thanks
Paul
Guest wrote Re: solution for terminale server permanent licensing
on Wed, Apr 6 2005 5:36 PM Link To This Comment
i have the same problem, did you find a resolution yet?
f_vanierschot@telenet.be
Guest wrote Re: 120 and 90 day limits explained
on Mon, Apr 18 2005 5:09 AM Link To This Comment
fdf
Guest wrote Re: TS licence question
on Mon, Apr 25 2005 12:52 PM Link To This Comment
Nope, you need just the TS Cal and server Cal
Guest wrote Re: I cannot believe it
on Mon, Apr 25 2005 12:55 PM Link To This Comment
You can run the license server on the terminal server. Just use the domain licensing and not enterprise.
Guest wrote Re: Moving the 2003 Licensing Server
on Tue, May 3 2005 3:12 PM Link To This Comment
I am trying to do the same thing. Have you tried migrating it, or gotten any answers?

- Connie
Guest wrote Re: Microsoft - Shame shame shame..
on Tue, May 3 2005 4:11 PM Link To This Comment
Relax man.. relax... its alright.

The reason why big companies don't use Linux is because of the image that little rants like this give the OS. All they can see are a bunch of wild kids who don't document, don't test, and don't give you support when you need it. Granted, that's MS to a tee, but we're talking perception here.

I would add to your list

12. For those of you just doing your job and making excuses for Linux, get Solaris. A real unix for real enterprise environments that runs Linux apps native.
Guest wrote Re: Remote Admin vs. Application Server mode
on Tue, May 3 2005 8:49 PM Link To This Comment
Looks like the remote admin mode for terminal server is still there. Instead of using a Terminal Service client, one has to use Remote Desktop Connection tool in XP or 2003 (in Start/Accessories/Communications), or download the software from Microsoft for older versions of Windows (98/NT4/2000). Good luck!
Guest wrote Re: TS CALS user vs device
on Thu, May 5 2005 2:38 PM Link To This Comment
I went to Terminal Services Configuration - Server Settings and change the licensing mode to User. The server now uses User CAL's.
Guest wrote Re: Checking if USER TS CAL's are being assigned
on Thu, May 5 2005 2:41 PM Link To This Comment
I went to Terminal Services Configuration - Server Settings and changed the licensing mode to User. The server now uses User CAL's. Expiration warning messages immediately stopped appearing.
From Scott

By the way Great Website for Terminal Service Info!!
Jose Hector Rios wrote process to reinstall my Active Directory Terminal Server 2003 with Activated Licenses
on Sat, May 7 2005 3:52 AM Link To This Comment
i need to know wich process i need to do with my server i have a Windows 2003 Standard Edition Server with Active Directory an Terminal Server License 2003 Activated with 12 User License CALS, but my machine has many problems, reboots continuosly with some CrashDebugs IDs, i talk to microsoft for diferentes patches for this errors, but the problem doesn´t resolv, they say wait for the Servce Pack 1, i´m wait, and when they final release the patch i installed the SP1 in my server and my server crash, then i repair my server using the upgrade option of the CD, but my Terminal Server server doesn´t work, but my license server it´s working and activated, what i need to do before i format my server and reinstall again to conserve or deinstall my Terminal Server User CALS and reinstall again after i reinstalled my operating system, thank you for your as soon as possible response.
Guest wrote Re: Regular User CALS deactivated .... how?
on Tue, May 17 2005 12:52 PM Link To This Comment
Check out:

www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/community/centers/terminal/terminal_faq.mspx

and look under Licensing for "How do I move my licenses from one server to another?"

Guest wrote Re: Microsoft - Shame shame shame..
on Fri, May 20 2005 12:41 AM Link To This Comment
i'm no microsoft fan, but hey:
1) agreed
2) all software has some form of bug
3) some versions of unix are have more security holes than windows does, do a little reasearch. mac os x is no better
4) blame the f*ckers actually writing the code to do it
5) *shrug*
6) agreed
7) if its OEM software, that software can only be used on the machine it was bought with, hence why you get it a lot cheaper than buying the boxed full product. If you have the boxed product, then you can install it on another machine, providing you have removed it from another
8) agree with the vender. 1 license per machine. apple does the same, but does not enforce it as much as microsoft, if at all. however the license agreement clearly states that you must own 1 licence PER machine
9) get your spelling right. GULLIBLE.
10) agreed
11) you seem to be making an excuse for yourself, pull your head out your a*se and go by the right way of it.

9 times out of 10, its the user who falls for the tricks that exploit their PC.

get a life.
Shawn Bass wrote RE: Re: Microsoft - Shame shame shame..
on Fri, May 20 2005 11:11 AM Link To This Comment
ORIGINAL: Guest
9) get your spelling right. GULLIBLE.


In point 3, I believe the word you were searching for is research, not "reasearch". If you're going to go around correcting people on their spelling, you probably should spell check your own work eh?

Guest wrote Re: Checking if USER TS CAL's are being assigned
on Thu, May 26 2005 10:17 PM Link To This Comment
Hello,

Did you get any answer to your question. We have citrix in production for more than 120 days, Still I am not seeing any TS per user cal being used. I am not sure how to check that.

Thanks,
Sudhir
sudhir@stratogent.com
Guest wrote Re: License discovery when installed on a member server...
on Fri, Jun 3 2005 8:32 AM Link To This Comment
I believe this to be the case as the last W2K3 deployment I did involved moving the License Server. When the W2K DC that hosted the original License server was upgraded to W2K3 the license server ceased working (it wasn't done by me so I have no idea why), anyway we installed an Enterprise Domain license server on a W2K3 member server and all worked fine without using the registry to force License server selection.
Brian Madden wrote RE: Re: License discovery when installed on a member server...
on Sat, Jun 4 2005 1:57 AM Link To This Comment
I've been working with Microsoft on this for the past few weeks. It appears that this functionality has changed between Windows 2000 and Windows 2003. In Windows 2000, the license server had to be on a domain controller, but that domain controller didn't have to be in the same domain (or trusted domain) as the Terminal Servers.

In Windows 2003, the license server can be installed onto a member server or domain controller, but it must be in the same trust path (same domain, or trusted domain, or trusted forest) as the Terminal Server.

Brian
Guest wrote Re: Re: I cannot believe it
on Tue, Jun 21 2005 12:08 PM Link To This Comment
Ans with only 2 users you don't need to run terminal server in application mode.
Guest wrote Re: Re: TS licence question
on Sun, Jul 3 2005 2:01 AM Link To This Comment
You need the Server 2003 License, the Server 2003 CAL and the TS CAL
Guest wrote Re: 120 and 90 day limits explained
on Sun, Jul 3 2005 2:03 AM Link To This Comment
Whilst these limits do exit you are REQUIRED to purchase your CALs as soon as you need them (i.e. your machine is in production and not a lab). You are not supposed to use the grace periods to avoid purchasing the CALs you need.
Guest wrote Using a RDP Gateway
on Tue, Jul 5 2005 8:13 PM Link To This Comment
Hi,

If i use a rdp gateway to access a TS 2003 server i need a ts client for each user ? Only the gateway "talks" with TS 2003.
Jeff Pitsch wrote RE: Using a RDP Gateway
on Tue, Jul 5 2005 8:23 PM Link To This Comment
Any device or user (you pick your license poison) that accesses terminal services needs a license. It does not matter that there is a 'middle-man'.

Guest wrote Moving Windows 2003 Terminal server into a new domain
on Thu, Jul 14 2005 7:30 AM Link To This Comment
Hi, we currently have a windows 2003 terminal server in domain "A", we want to move this from domain "A" which is a windows nt4.0 domain into domain "B" which is a Windows 2003 Active directory domain. Do i need to deactivate the licenses, join new domain, reactivate licenses and then re-add licenses? we also have citrix presentation server sitting on this server, but that should not be a problem?

Thankyou

Kristopher
Guest wrote Re: process to reinstall my Active Directory Terminal Server 2003 with Activated Licenses
on Fri, Jul 22 2005 5:25 PM Link To This Comment
Go ahead and reinstall. The activation server should auto detect if you use the same server. However, the CALS you used will need to be reactivated. For that you will need to call clearing house.
Guest wrote HELP: Software requirement for setting up a terminal server..
on Mon, Jul 25 2005 5:19 PM Link To This Comment
Firstly, great article...

One quick question to ask...

When setting up a Windows 2003 terminal server (say for 5) do I need

(option 1) CDROM software for BOTH
* MS Windows 2003 Server (standard edition) which includes 5 CAL

and
* MS Windows 2003 Terminal Server software which includes 5 CAL

OR

(option 2) CDROM software for ONLY
* MS Windows 2003 Server (standard edition) which includes 5 CAL

and only the license (no software required) for
* MS Windows 2003 Terminal Server which includes 5 CAL

OR

is it a different combination from the above.

Please advise as everyone I talk to is giving me a different answer.

Thanks in advance for your help..

TW

Peter Jones wrote RE: HELP: Software requirement for setting up a terminal server..
on Tue, Jul 26 2005 4:41 AM Link To This Comment
To set-up a Windows 2003 server and be license compliant for 5 users you will need:

1 Windows 2003 Standard Edition License
5 Windows Connection licenses (CAL's)
5 Windows Terminal Services Licenses (TSCAL's)

The terminal services software is included with Windows 2003, so the only cd you will need is a valid Windows 2003 one....
Guest wrote Re: RE: HELP: Software requirement for setting up a terminal server..
on Thu, Jul 28 2005 3:12 PM Link To This Comment
Thanks for the feedback... now I have two other questions;

1. could the terminal server have less license than the windows 2003 server connection license OR should they be the same? In other words, if I have 8 users and only 3 will have access to the terminal server, could I just purchase 5 terminal server license or do I need to purchase 10 (in this case, I will be purchasing 10 windows connection licenses CAL)?

2. if I only need the license for the "terminal server" (since its included with Windows 2003 server), when will someone need the "software" version of the "terminal server". What is the benefit of having software version? Are the two basically the same in terms of functionality?

Thanks in advance again for your help.

TW
Guest wrote Re: RE: TS Licensing
on Mon, Aug 1 2005 2:10 PM Link To This Comment
Is there any way to change the number of days for a cal to expire? I know that this is done randomly up to 89 days, but for my purposes it would be helpful if this could be set to a short period like 1 week.
Guest wrote Restricting Users on Terminal Servers.
on Thu, Aug 11 2005 1:57 PM Link To This Comment
20 Users connect to a TS. Is there a way to restrict the Drive Mapping, LPT Mapping or Clipboard Mapping for 10 of them and allow for the rest of them. I mean can we do it on user basis.(It doesn't work by configuring user Properties in Active Directory Users and Comuters, at least in my case). Secondly and preferably is it possible by using Group Policy? Remember we are talking only about users and not the computers. So the restriction should be on the users in the group policy so that those 10 users shouldn't be able to use Drive, LPT or Clipboard Mapping. Right now I have disabled it from Terminal Services Configuration. Which disables it for all the users including the Administrator :( Thanx in advance.
Michael Burke wrote RE: Restricting Users on Terminal Servers.
on Thu, Aug 11 2005 4:13 PM Link To This Comment
If you are using W2K3 Terminal Servers, then you can use GPO to control it. If not, you have to edit each user account separately. If you have a W2K3 AD, you can bulk-select multiple user accounts and make the change. If you have a W2K AD, you can use ADModify.net (from MSDN) to make bulk changes.
Guest wrote Which Terminal Server licensing Server?
on Wed, Aug 31 2005 2:57 AM Link To This Comment
Hi
How do I know which Terminal Services Licensing Services Server is my Terminal Services contacting. Is there any command for the same.
One more .. Question ..
Will Windows 2003 Terminal Services work on Windows 2000 Terminal Services Licensing?

Thanks in advance
Sandeep
Michael Burke wrote RE: Which Terminal Server licensing Server?
on Wed, Aug 31 2005 9:20 AM Link To This Comment
Will Windows 2003 Terminal Services work on Windows 2000 Terminal Services Licensing?
No, it won't. Only W2K3 License servers can allocate licenses to W2K3 terminal servers.

As for finding out which license server they are contacting, NETSTAT should be able to tell you that.
mikeyp wrote Terminal Server & Office Application Licensing
on Mon, Sep 19 2005 10:39 AM Link To This Comment
Firstly I would like to congratulate Madden & Oglesby on the excellent Terminal Services book. Its a relief to come across a book that is written from an architects perspective.

The licensing section in particular clears up a very murky area, but I am still a little perplexed by the licensing of applications and the enforcement of application licenses. The book highlights typical application licensing modes, named and concurrent basis. It suggests that most Microsoft applications are licensed on a named basis and suggests that an acceptable way forward would be restrict access to applications my group membership.

Whilst there is an implication that the likes of Office, Project & Visio could be addressed in this way, some further guidance would be appreciated. Has anyone had a statement from Microsoft on this matter?

In our environment, we have an Enterprise Agreement for Office, but Project & Visio are licensed on an as needed basis. Would be accceptable to Microsoft the access to Project & Vision was be group membership?

Thanks
Mike.

Guest wrote Re: TS licence question
on Mon, Sep 19 2005 10:57 AM Link To This Comment
When using Winterm clients, does it matter whether I have installed PER USER or PER DEVICE TS CALS at the license server?

I have found that setting the TS Licensing mode at the TS server to PER USER, does not allow the Winterm to connect to a published app. The server HAS to be in PER DEVICE mode in order for he Winterm to connect.

Thoughts?
Guest wrote 2003 License Server not Activating
on Thu, Oct 6 2005 4:23 PM Link To This Comment
I have a 2003 License Server everything installed great. But, when I open the TS License Server it won't show my activated server. I can go in and manually select it and it shows activated but it won't discover. It is a non-domain controller in the same domain as the 6 TS Servers. Thank You -JM
alexander ho wrote How to install External Connector Licenses?
on Wed, Nov 2 2005 4:03 AM Link To This Comment
Hello Brian and everyone!
I am interested in using External Connector Licenses for Windows Server 2003, and am researching it before i make a purchase.
I am unable to locate any help about the actual installation process.
is it a Wizard based process? or just a paper license?
Is the installation process similar to Terminal Server licensing? and done from the Terminal Server Licensing window?
Thank you for any help on this regard.
cheers!
-alexander
Guest wrote Re: How to install External Connector Licenses?
on Thu, Nov 3 2005 1:16 PM Link To This Comment
It is just a paper license but you have to install your ts config server settings has to have licensing set to per user
Guest wrote RE: process to reinstall my Active Directory Terminal Server 2003 with Activated Licenses
on Tue, Nov 22 2005 12:48 PM Link To This Comment
ORIGINAL: jhrios

i need to know wich process i need to do with my server i have a Windows 2003 Standard Edition Server with Active Directory an Terminal Server License 2003 Activated with 12 User License CALS, but my machine has many problems, reboots continuosly with some CrashDebugs IDs, i talk to microsoft for diferentes patches for this errors, but the problem doesn?t resolv, they say wait for the Servce Pack 1, i?m wait, and when they final release the patch i installed the SP1 in my server and my server crash, then i repair my server using the upgrade option of the CD, but my Terminal Server server doesn?t work, but my license server it?s working and activated, what i need to do before i format my server and reinstall again to conserve or deinstall my Terminal Server User CALS and reinstall again after i reinstalled my operating system, thank you for your as soon as possible response.
Guest wrote RE: Moving Windows 2003 Terminal server into a new domain
on Tue, Nov 22 2005 12:49 PM Link To This Comment
ORIGINAL: Guest

Hi, we currently have a windows 2003 terminal server in domain "A", we want to move this from domain "A" which is a windows nt4.0 domain into domain "B" which is a Windows 2003 Active directory domain. Do i need to deactivate the licenses, join new domain, reactivate licenses and then re-add licenses? we also have citrix presentation server sitting on this server, but that should not be a problem?

Thankyou

Kristopher
Guest wrote RE: thank you.only now and only in this site i understand terminal server licensing.
on Tue, Nov 22 2005 1:43 PM Link To This Comment
ORIGINAL: Guest

This message was originally posted by Lollo on November 24, 2004
Guest wrote resolved: 2 conncetions, no license
on Wed, Nov 23 2005 6:44 AM Link To This Comment
Hi everybody, as a nice guy said before I basically had the problem that I just needed two connections maximum for administering the server.
Went to "terminal services configuration" (not server terminal server licensing) and changed setting from "per device" ---> to "per user". Bingo. Now not anymore annoyng warnings about licensing days left of whatever.
By the way I think Ms did not a great job with all this licensing craziness stuff about managing a server I OWN.
Nice site and nice fellows here by the way, I'll be back for sure.
Ciao !
Michael Burke wrote RE: resolved: 2 conncetions, no license
on Wed, Nov 23 2005 9:04 AM Link To This Comment
Terminal Services shouldn't be installed at all for remote administration on a W2K3 box.  You use Remote Desktop in that case and can remove Terminal Services from Add/Remove Programs.
Guest wrote RE: process to reinstall my Active Directory Terminal Server 2003 with Activated Licenses
on Wed, Nov 23 2005 4:57 PM Link To This Comment
Your sad fate is a hearty recommendation for Unix or Linux, true mutliuser systems that actually work well.
Guest wrote Terminal Server - delete per device CALS
on Tue, Nov 29 2005 1:44 AM Link To This Comment
How can I delete an incorect per device TS CALS assigned?
Guest wrote Per Device Cals and Remote Desktop Connection
on Wed, Nov 30 2005 7:20 AM Link To This Comment
My permanent by device TS cals (for clients) are being allocated to IT support PC's that are using Remote Desktop Connection for support purposes. The net result 9is that the clients who need to use terminal services are being allocated temporary licences that will run out in 90 days. Is there anyway of preventing the licensing server from allocation TS cals to Remote Desktop connections.
Brian Madden wrote RE: Per Device Cals and Remote Desktop Connection
on Wed, Nov 30 2005 9:23 AM Link To This Comment
Do not post technical questions to the comments of an article. If you want an answer, post this question to the licensing support forum at [link=http:  
Brian
Guest wrote RE: Deactivate and uninstall license server addon...can't reactivate license packs!
on Tue, Dec 6 2005 3:53 AM Link To This Comment
ORIGINAL: Guest

This message was originally posted by ShackDaddy on April 14, 2004
I have four 5-user 2003 TS-CAL tokens (gotten via legacy transition route). I installed License Server on our solo 2003 server and installed the license paks. The rest of the domain is W2K. The clients were getting "Can't find license server" errors, so I deactivated the license server and uninstalled it, then reinstalled it and put in that registry fix to look at itself for licenses. When I went to readd the license packs, the Clearinghouse returned the message that those keys were invalid because they were already activated. But they aren't active on my server or anywhere else! Am I supposed to call Microsoft and have them deactivate them, or is there a better way to resolve this issue? Thanks!
Dave Shackelford - Exchange MVP

 
Got the same problem here, does it work now?
 
Otherwise I have to find out what to fix then...
 
Could you give me some info?
Guest wrote Terminal Server License reactivation.
on Tue, Dec 6 2005 5:10 AM Link To This Comment
I have some trouble with activating my license server for a second time.
 
I have 1 license key with 5 TS CAL's.
 
It has been used for a former installation on the same server.
 
I have 1 Server which is Domain Controller too which is running Terminal Server License manager.
 
A second server(evaluation version) is running Terminal Server. Both 2003 Servers
 
The first problem is:
When I go to my Terminal Server License Manager and I reinstall it completely in Contol Panel; Add/Remove Windows Components. After the reinstall I do a reboot. I can activate my server from there untill i insert the key. When the key is accepted it says Terminal Server key already activated. Only when I open Terminal Server to check the licenses, it only says the Terminal Server 2000 Automatic Licenses and no 2003 Licenses which allready should be activated. I read something about calling Clearinghouse but I'd rather not call Microsoft before i'm sure to do it. i don't want a call to be made, which could cost lot's of money.
 
A second problem is:
When using terminal Server inside the building it's all working fine with the automatic licenses. Only when I try to connect to the Terminal Server from outside with a wireless connection on a router with Internet, I get a black screen and it's not working then. The server is reachable from there only the Term. Serv. Doesn't work. There is SonicWall installed.
 
Could somebody give some advice about this, cause it getting kinda annoying now.
 
Thanx,
Guest wrote RE: Terminal Server License reactivation.
on Tue, Dec 6 2005 8:38 AM Link To This Comment
If fixed this after calling ClearingHouse, so the first problem is not necessary anymore. One other thing occurs though. Now when I log in through Terminal Server connection, it still keeps sending Automatic licenses, so I wondered. How can I fix it so it will accept a official license 2003, and not the automatic's who will stop after 120-day. Do you need to do this by yourself or does it changes itself (so it wil accept the officials after the 120 days)
 
If allready changed some registry settings on my Terminal Server see Article ID: 279561 on the http://support.microsoft.com site.
 
but it's still not functioning right.
 
Does anybody have a clue?
 
Thnx,
 
Jack
Michael Burke wrote RE: Terminal Server License reactivation.
on Tue, Dec 6 2005 9:07 AM Link To This Comment
When anyone connects for the first time, they get a temporary license.  Only after the second authenticated logon do they get a permanent license.
 
Are any users allocating permanent TSCALs?
Guest wrote Great Paper - One Question on WAN Outage & Loss of Off-site Licensing Server
on Fri, Dec 9 2005 4:19 PM Link To This Comment
Hi,
  Read your entire paper with great interest - learned much - congrats on making a rather complex topic much clearer.
 
  Wondering if you might confirm my understanding regarding implications of a WAN outage & loss of access to our sole off-site/centralized Licensing Server.  We currently have an AD envirnoment with mixed win2k and win2k3 terminal servers at multiple WAN-connected sites, hosting apps, with a single centralized Licensing server.  These servers have all been in place for 6 months or more, so no "temporary" licensing issues/options apply here. 
 
  Recently, we tested the impact of a WAN outage (which only affects access to the off-site/centralized licensing server, the app/terminal servers are on-site) and were disappointed to learn that no users could access any applications because the single centralized licensing server could not provide/confirm any TS CALs to any remote site terminal servers and/or clients/users.  It appears our only option (to make app access at each site WAN-outage-proof) is to install at least one secondary/backup license server at each and every site.
 
  Given that this approach represents a significant amount of work (not just a simple install of the licensing service, but we must also configure, manage, etc.), I'm wondering if you agree, or perhaps can suggest a better strategy?
 
Thanks, and keep up the good work!
Tom
P.S. Sorry about the anonymous response, but I've been burned/spammed before at other sites when using my real/identifiable account.
Guest wrote How to convert Per Device CAL to Per User CAL
on Tue, Dec 27 2005 4:47 AM Link To This Comment
Somehow when I installed a 2003 TS server and a 2003 PDC (TS licensing on PDC), the TS Server gave out temp per device licenses.
 
I bought 50 per user licenses and installed & activated on the license server (PDC).
 
But now I have like 60 temp per device licenses, 45 running out soon. (I am going to get 50 more as I have like 95 users).
 
How do I transfer the 1st batch of users from per device CALs to the activated per user CALs ?
It states that I have 50 available and "NA" issued for per user CAL.
Guest wrote Is there correction required in the discovery flow mentioned?
on Tue, Dec 27 2005 5:52 AM Link To This Comment
Hi,
 
In the licesnse server discovery flow (in case of Active Directory), you have mentioned following four steps:
 

Discovery in Active Directory Environments
When a Terminal Server is a member of an Active Directory domain, the license server discovery process is entirely different.
First, the Terminal Server attempts to contact the license server (or servers) specified in its LicenseServers registry key. If a license server is discovered at any point through this process, the remainder of the discovery process is aborted.
If that attempt fails, the server next looks for an enterprise scope licensing server by performing an LDAP query for the following object in its Active Directory site:
LDAP://CN=TS-Enterprise-License-Server,CN=, CN=sites,CN=configuration,DC=,DC=com
If that attempt also fails, the Terminal Server begins querying every domain controller in the site, looking for "enterprise scope" licensing servers.
If the Terminal Server still has not found a license server, it will query every other domain controller (outside of its site) to see if any are configured as a domain scope license server.
I think there is a correction that is required in the step 3. 
The terminal server will query the domain controller in the site  for "domain" scope license server and not the "enterprise" scope ones. Otherwise, it will not be possible to discover the license server which is in the same domain as terminal server and installed on DC (please note that step 4 will check for the LS in the other DC and not in the host DC).
 
Please update.
 
Guest wrote RE: Deactivate and uninstall license server addon...can't reactivate license packs!
on Tue, Jan 3 2006 5:44 AM Link To This Comment
ORIGINAL: Guest

This message was originally posted by ShackDaddy on April 14, 2004
I have four 5-user 2003 TS-CAL tokens (gotten via legacy transition route). I installed License Server on our solo 2003 server and installed the license paks. The rest of the domain is W2K. The clients were getting "Can't find license server" errors, so I deactivated the license server and uninstalled it, then reinstalled it and put in that registry fix to look at itself for licenses. When I went to readd the license packs, the Clearinghouse returned the message that those keys were invalid because they were already activated. But they aren't active on my server or anywhere else! Am I supposed to call Microsoft and have them deactivate them, or is there a better way to resolve this issue? Thanks!
Dave Shackelford - Exchange MVP
Guest wrote TS Server and Licensing Server on same machine?
on Sun, Jan 8 2006 5:37 PM Link To This Comment
Is it possible to install the TS Licensing Server on the same machine that is running the TS Server, or do we need a dedicated (as in seperate) machine to run the licensing?

Thanks,
jansen
Guest wrote RE: TS Server and Licensing Server on same machine?
on Sun, Jan 8 2006 5:51 PM Link To This Comment
I'm so sorry for wasting your time, I've just found the answer in the FAQ. :-(
Please feel free to delete this thread.

Sorry again,
jansen
Guest wrote ms licensing
on Fri, Jan 27 2006 5:25 PM Link To This Comment
  Thank god we are rid of M$ becuase we are using our own os. We do not put up with all that
licensing bs anymore.
Guest wrote RE: Re: Microsoft - Shame shame shame..
on Thu, Mar 2 2006 9:56 AM Link To This Comment
jibber jabber
Patrick Rouse wrote RE: Re: Microsoft - Shame shame shame..
on Thu, Mar 2 2006 10:02 AM Link To This Comment
Don't like it, don't use it.  Want to b!tch and moan about something, have the b@lls to put your name on the statement.
Jeff Pitsch wrote RE: Re: Microsoft - Shame shame shame..
on Thu, Mar 2 2006 3:16 PM Link To This Comment
Point #7 cracks me up.
 
when Windows 95 came out, MS wasn't where they are now.  No one forced the PC vendors to sign the deals they did with Microsoft.  OS2/Warp was a viable competitor but even IBM didn't sell Warp like they sold Windows.  Did MS seriously push IBM into selling Windows 95?  Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.  MS didn't make themselves a monopoly, the greedy PC vendors who signed those agreements made MS a monopoly.  MS was handed a monopoly on a silver platter by the pc vendors and IBM's misteps. 
Guest wrote ts cal and cal license fees.
on Wed, Mar 8 2006 9:51 PM Link To This Comment
Thanx for the article, it was very informative. We are planning to start a business of which computing is an important part of the business. It has convinced us to go with Linux. Windows server and clients costs would put us out of business. It sounds like Microsoft is charging you to use your own equipment.......
 

Guest wrote 2000 Terminal Server
on Fri, Mar 10 2006 8:22 AM Link To This Comment
We have a 2000 Server running with Terminal server. The clients use terminal server to access a DB app and we have about 10-12 people using this all the time. The server was activated and worked fine until there was a problem with the OS. The Server was re-installed and since that time the terminal server cannot be activated. But, most users are able to connect and not have a problem, there are however two people who always are getting "Temporary License" and you have to make a registry change to renew the license. Most of the users are not listed as having a license at all but are able to connect without a problem. Any help or ideas? The info on this seems vague at best!
Shawn Bass wrote RE: 2000 Terminal Server
on Fri, Mar 10 2006 6:52 PM Link To This Comment
terminal

You're going to need to call the Microsoft Clearinghouse to activate your terminal server licensing and re-issue your licenses.

Shawn

Guest wrote How to remove Terminal Server after you unistall it.
on Tue, Mar 14 2006 3:02 PM Link To This Comment
I have unistalled terminal server from my windows 2003 server but i keep getting this error message:
ID=1008 Source=TermService Type=1 Message=The terminal server licensing grace period has expired and the service has not registered with a license server with installed licenses.
How do I get these messages to stop?
Guest wrote TS Licencing
on Fri, Mar 24 2006 8:59 AM Link To This Comment
Superb article.. Answered all my questions except 1.. If i leave my TS servers as W2K, but upgrade my licencing server to W2K3, can i continue to use my "free" existing windows 2000 licences ?   Thanks again
Guest wrote Windows 2000 Advanced Server
on Sat, Apr 8 2006 9:36 AM Link To This Comment
Hi,

we are in a very small environment and we have a Windows 2000 Advanced Server (acting as File/Print server) in a workgroup environment (i.e. no Windows domain, PDC, BDC, Active Directory). Current Licence is: Per Server with 5 concurrent connections. Currently we are running 3 PCs with Win98 and 1 with Win2000.

I like the idea of windows 2000 Advanced Server on a new server and 5 Thin-Clients, or the PC's we have at the moment.

What is the best way (Licence wise) to go?

Thanks,
Yiannis
Guest wrote TS User Cals not being used
on Wed, Apr 12 2006 1:20 PM Link To This Comment
Hi Brian;
 
Great article... Very detailed...
I have a terminal server (2003) with 25 User Cals activated and installed. However all my clients are getting temporary licenses. I have done the registry addidtion - LicenseServer - and changed the server type to "Per User", but my users are still getting temporary licences. Any idea's before I call the Big M? 
Guest wrote Moving - Releasing TS Cals
on Wed, Apr 12 2006 8:50 PM Link To This Comment
Ok... I "think" I have it, but am hoping for something in black and white (and maybe pictures and point and click would be helpful).
 
I have a client with 20 TSCals, they have about 10 Systems, and 10 Terminals.   Systems are starting to die one by one, and they want to replace them with thin clients mostly, but maybe some notebooks...  They have used all the cals, and do not seem to have any temps available (its been about a year now)
 
How can I get the Cals' out of the "device" and back into the pool, and... what about systems that have been removed and reformatted?  (this has happend to one...)
 
Thanks,
Guest wrote TS / RDC
on Mon, Apr 24 2006 3:56 PM Link To This Comment
Ok,

so i came accross a setup that worked fine with 2000 but need a guide as far as 2003 goes.

If I use RDP for administrative purposes i dont need TS to do that  (right?) and i can only have 1 RDC active at a time.. (?)

we have 12 users that RDC to the Win2003 server to access a Database application. They all use the same UID and Pass to connect via RDC and it starts the database program.

We moved the database from a 2000 server to the 2003 server and the TS is configured to "per user" and "allow multiple sessions". Since we only have 1 "user" log in do we still need to get the TS CALs? The TS lists, for example, 6 session active and every session is activated by 'DBUser'.
Because RDC on its own does not allow for multiple sessions we have to use TS. Do the TS Cals apply even just for that one "user".

We have to use DBUser account so that the 12 users can access the database, if we use their useraccounts the database fails (ideally they should switch out the DB program, but with all the data and training involved it not feasable at this time).

Thank you
Shawn Bass wrote RE: TS / RDC
on Mon, Apr 24 2006 6:15 PM Link To This Comment
ORIGINAL: Guest

If I use RDP for administrative purposes i dont need TS to do that  (right?) and i can only have 1 RDC active at a time.. (?)

Yes you need Terminal Services.  No, you do not need TS Application Mode and you do not need CALs for this.  You can actually get two RDC into the server for Remote Admin purposes.

ORIGINAL: Guest

we have 12 users that RDC to the Win2003 server to access a Database application. They all use the same UID and Pass to connect via RDC and it starts the database program.

So you were doing this in Remote Admin mode with only a single user concurrency?

ORIGINAL: Guest
We moved the database from a 2000 server to the 2003 server and the TS is configured to "per user" and "allow multiple sessions". Since we only have 1 "user" log in do we still need to get the TS CALs? The TS lists, for example, 6 session active and every session is activated by 'DBUser'.
Because RDC on its own does not allow for multiple sessions we have to use TS. Do the TS Cals apply even just for that one "user".

Yes, you need TS CALs in this case.  Microsoft's licensing doesn't allow multiple physical users to share a CAL even in the event that they have the same virtual user name.  If this was the case, I'd expect that just about everyone in the world would be using the same scheme that you're trying to do.

Shawn
Guest wrote Windows 2000 Server TS CAL and Windows XP Home
on Mon, May 22 2006 3:40 PM Link To This Comment
In the office i work we have a windows 2000 server, running as a terminal server. I know windows 2000 and windows xp pro users don't need to buy TS CAL's, i also know that windows xp home users can't access windows 2003 server even if there are available TS CAL's. But my question is: does Windows 2000 Server TS CAL's support windows xp home users ?

Thank You

Shawn Bass wrote RE: Windows 2000 Server TS CAL and Windows XP Home
on Tue, May 23 2006 11:46 AM Link To This Comment
The built-in TS CALs on 2000 Server are only available to 2000 Pro and XP Pro.  XP Home, Media Center, and Tablet Editions are not able to use a built-in CAL.

Shawn
Guest wrote Small Business Server and 2003 Terminal Server
on Fri, May 26 2006 2:10 AM Link To This Comment
I was reading on the MS site that 2003 Small Business Server shouldn't run Terminal Server.  They said that you should run the Terminal Server on another 2003 Server, but that the SBS CALs could be used for the CALs.
This is confusing in relation to the 2003 Server CALs and the Terminal Server CALs.



We are looking at having 1 SBS Premium 2003 Server with 10 CALs, another 2003 Server running 5 User Citrix Metaframe, and 1 or 2 additional 2000 servers running SQL Servers (7/2k with SBS server running SQL 2K5 when R2 upgrade comes out).  With SBS, do I need to purchase server CALs for each server or does the SBS CAL cover other servers in the domain.  Again, it was confusing on MS site.
(To maintain compatibility with client setups, we have to have a mix of Server OS/SQL Server versions)

One option we have is to keep the Citrix on a 2000 server as all users are running XP PRO and this would not require new 2k3 CALs.  Is there any specific reason that we should go with 2k3 on the Citrix Metaframe system?

Thank you for any guidance on this confusing issue.

Guest wrote Client Access Issues
on Fri, May 26 2006 10:05 AM Link To This Comment
We are currently trying to connect multiple Windows CE devices to Win 2003 server via TS.  The TS is setup to run in Application Mode and "Per Device".  We have purchased adequate device TS licenses and setup the Licensing Service on the TS server.  The first time we are able to get in just fine, but all subsequent requests we get denied.  I am assuming we are getting the Temporary license just fine, but when attempting to upgrade to Full we are failing.  Any thoughts?
Guest wrote NT 4.0 Domain User not found by TS 2003 Server
on Sat, Jun 3 2006 4:47 PM Link To This Comment
I'm attempting to determine why new users added to an NT 4.0 domain are not found in the domain user list after they are added to the domain. They are viewable across the WAN from another domain but the Terminal Server which is in the same domain as the PDC is unable view the entire domain users list. Users added just a few days ago can be found.
 
Event Type: Error
Event Source: Winlogon
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1219
Date:  6/2/2006
Time:  1:10:36 PM
User:  N/A
Computer: TS100
Description:
Logon rejected for MYDOMAIN\Davis_M. Unable to obtain Terminal Server User Configuration. Error: Access is denied.
Guest wrote Terminal Service Licensing server down & out...
on Sun, Jun 4 2006 10:32 PM Link To This Comment
Gone through the pain of our TSL server dying on us (no backup).
All the other servers are still looking for the dead server prior to looking for the new TSL we had setup and registered.
 
If you start up TSL on the new License server it still looks firstly at the old dead server before settling on itself.
 
Is there any way of removing the TSL lookup to the old box due to is causing login pauses through Citrix ICA client?
 
Perhaps a registry change or something, there seems to be very little info about this problem, maybe because people have a backup.
 
 
Shawn Bass wrote RE: Small Business Server and 2003 Terminal Server
on Tue, Jun 6 2006 4:43 PM Link To This Comment
You can use the SBS CALs to access the Citrix box from a Windows perspective (i.e. the Windows Server CAL).  You still need TS CALs though.

Shawn
Guest wrote RE: Terminal Server License reactivation.
on Sun, Jun 11 2006 3:56 AM Link To This Comment
Check your router, may need to open the TCP/UDP port for RDP. Check by Telnetting to the RDP port number.
Guest wrote RE: Terminal Server License reactivation.
on Fri, Jun 16 2006 9:41 AM Link To This Comment
Hi all,

I have the same problem that you (the first point).
I'm french, somebody know what is ClearingHouse in France ?
Or, could you explain how fix this problem by myself please ?

Thank you in advance !

Vincent.
Guest wrote RE: NT 4.0 Domain User not found by TS 2003 Server
on Thu, Jun 29 2006 3:15 PM Link To This Comment
I'm getting the same error message on a Win2003 SP1 server running MF 4.0.
 
No NT 4.0 involved and the same issue.
 
thanks,
nirvana818@yahoo.com
Guest wrote RE: Re: TS CALS user vs device
on Tue, Jul 11 2006 6:01 AM Link To This Comment
I have the same problem. I changed "device" to "user", but it's still using te temporary device licenses i have??
How come? Any suggestions? I have restart the "Terminal Service Licensing Service".
 
Any help would be very appreciated
Guest wrote TSCAL license sharing between multiple TS in the same domain ?
on Fri, Jul 14 2006 9:45 AM Link To This Comment

I have 2 TS servers and 20 clients. The goal is to balance the load, and to have a "failover" solution if one server crashes.

How many TSCAL do I have to buy ? 20 or 40 (20 for each server) ?

Can TSCAL's  be shared between servers in the same domain ? It would be great if I could buy only 20 licenses and dispatch it on my 2 TS depending on the needs...

Do I need a central licensing server to do this ?
Guest wrote RE: Re: RE: HELP: Software requirement for setting up a terminal server..
on Tue, Aug 1 2006 4:27 PM Link To This Comment
You only need 3 TS CAL's for your scenario.
 
There is no separate "software version" of Terminal Server. Terminal Server functionality is part of Windows 2003 Server (though only a license for 1 user is included).
Guest wrote mix TS 2003 CALs?
on Sat, Sep 2 2006 8:17 PM Link To This Comment
hi there,
 
I read through this. Can TS user CALs and per device CALs be mixed up in one terminal server?
 
any input welcome.
 
Regards,
 
Michael
 
 
 
Guest wrote RE: How to convert Per Device CAL to Per User CAL
on Thu, Sep 21 2006 4:25 AM Link To This Comment
No the conversion is only supported when you have the transistion agreement.
 
Kiran
Guest wrote Return TS CALS to pool
on Thu, Sep 28 2006 12:59 PM Link To This Comment
I have a Windows 2003 Terminal Server in a thin client environment using per device licensing.  In August, I changed to a VMware tftp server.  When I initially added my clients, they grabbed default numbered names like 809-23 so I went into the VMware management tool and renamed them to logical names like 809-BusnMgr.  Unfortunately, those numbered clients each took a TS CAL and then when I renamed them they took another TS CAL, so I have run out of CALS (I had 100) and it doesn't want to issue anymore temporary ones (it has issued 34 already).  Is there anyway I can force it to give up those TS CALS and return them to the pool?  I don't want to wait until November for this to clear itself up.
Any help would be appreciated.
Guest wrote removing used cal tokens on a windows 2003 terminal server
on Tue, Oct 3 2006 9:01 AM Link To This Comment
Hi Brian,
 
we have a problem where our 8 per device CALs is been used up by people that
should be connecting to the terminal server.

is therte a way to de-register remove single issued token a freeing them up
for the correct people that need them?

many thx.
 
p.s. might consider buying your book :)
Guest wrote TS License Count
on Thu, Oct 5 2006 10:44 AM Link To This Comment
Hi,
 
Is there a way to get a text output count of the licenses used?
 
Thanks
Jerry
Guest wrote What licence do I need (if any)
on Wed, Oct 18 2006 9:22 AM Link To This Comment
In my home (thus not a production environment) I have a LAN with two 2003 servers (NFR versions) two XP Pro computers (NFR again) and now a 486 running thin client software that I want to connect to one of the 2003 servers as a terminal so it can run applications based on the 2003 server (Internet Explorer and Open Office)
 
I'm believing I can run in a per user configuration and not need to purchase any TS licences because the server comes with 1 TS Licence and only one system will connect to the TS and that one system is used by only two people and I should have 2 TS licences because I have 2 servers on the network.
 
I run this network mostly for my own learning opportunities
lcarr@hitechnique.com wrote RE: resolved: 2 conncetions, no license
on Thu, Mar 8 2007 6:28 PM Link To This Comment
ORIGINAL: Michael Burke

Terminal Services shouldn't be installed at all for remote administration on a W2K3 box.  You use Remote Desktop in that case and can remove Terminal Services from Add/Remove Programs.

 
Are there any bad side effects to the installed applications when you remove Terminal Services?  I just need Remote Desktop for administration but have heard rumblings that removing Terminal Services will break the already installed applications.  Is there reason to be concerned?
Guest wrote Citrix
on Tue, May 1 2007 7:11 AM Link To This Comment

We upgraded our DC to Windows 2003. After 90 days, citrix connections stopped. I am told that we have to buy TS CALs for Windows 2003. We did not need them earlier as DC/terminal servers were on Win2K and all clients are Windows XP and I assume the built-in CALS sufficed. We need to use the Citrix environment for 6-8 months more only. Can we retain the Terminal Server on Windows 2000, still join the domain with the DC on Win 2003 and keep using Citrix? What could be the issues? What do we lose?

Thanks in advance

Guest wrote Re: Re: Regular User CALS deactivated .... how?
on Tue, May 1 2007 4:18 PM Link To This Comment
This link: www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/community/centers/terminal/terminal_faq.mspx, simply tells you to backup your license server.  It says nothing about moving licenses.
Guest wrote Terminal Server as Member Server of SBS Domain
on Wed, May 2 2007 7:25 AM Link To This Comment

Our company is thinking of implementing Terminal Server as a Member Server of a SBS domain to run our accounting program. If so, how would the licensing work (e.g. the relation between our SBS CAL's and our TS CAL's) and would where the licensing server would be installed (on the TS itself or on the SBS Box (DC))?

Thanks for your help

Guest wrote Why can't Microsoft write software that actually works?
on Fri, May 25 2007 2:21 PM Link To This Comment
Fresh OS install, put terminal services on, can't find the license server that it just installed.  I've uninstalled, reinstalled, etc.  It can't find itself.  If I point it directly to itself it says it can't find it.  Why does anyone buy their junk software?
Guest wrote Re: Terminal Server as Member Server of SBS Domain
on Tue, Jun 5 2007 10:30 AM Link To This Comment
I have exactly this setup. I am running the TS licensing server (in Enterprise mode) on the Terminal Server itself (figured the SBS server had enough to do already). Also running the licensing in per User mode. Bought a five user license pack. Been running it about 6 months, one user is now able to work from home, have had travelling users log in from all over Europe and North America, maybe not as fast as Citrix but otherwise good.
Guest wrote Terminal Server has only issued Temp Licenses
on Mon, Jul 2 2007 10:48 AM Link To This Comment
I have 90 liscenes but none have been assigned only Temp licences have been given out.  What the heck has gone wrong?
Guest wrote Terminal Server accross firewall license ports to open
on Mon, Jul 16 2007 8:15 AM Link To This Comment

We will have terminal server that seperates terminal server license server across firewall. What ports needed to be open to communicate with license server?

Guest wrote We have two domains with a licensing server in one of them
on Wed, Aug 1 2007 6:13 PM Link To This Comment
We want to configure a terminal server in the other domain to point to the same licensing server.  We can't seem to get it to see it.  There is no trust realtionshiop setup between the domain (this is on purpose).  Are we out of luck or is ther a way to set this up?
Guest wrote Re: Re: Microsoft - Shame shame shame..
on Thu, Aug 16 2007 12:09 PM Link To This Comment
A real Unix feeding another company hell bent on control of the market  (it's all about money Chief...).  Linux, Solaris, All flavours of BSD and even, hang me if you must, Windows; it doesn't matter.  It is what you make of them that counts.  I can build a Linux Server that is as effective and useful as a Solaris.  It all depends on what you are using it fore and how creative you are with it.  Even Windows can be made to work if you are savvy enough.  Besides, Al of us techies would be out of a job without faults and bugs...
Jeffrey B. Kane [SBS MVP] wrote Re: Terminal Server as Member Server of SBS Domain
on Thu, Aug 16 2007 5:49 PM Link To This Comment

Microsoft has provided specific documentation for adding a Terminal Server to an SBS network.  You'll find that at http://sbsurl.com/sbstss.  Depending on how powerful your SBS' hardware is, and how many folks would need to access the accounting program, it's also possible to install a Virtual Terminal Server on the SBS box.  See http://sbsurl.com/vs for info about that.

TechSoEasy

Robert Murray wrote Expired per-deive TS CALs not returned to "availble pool"
on Sat, Aug 18 2007 12:53 PM Link To This Comment

We have close to 100 per-deive TS CALs that the "Expires on" date was has passed and they have not been returned to the "availble pool." Can anyone shed some light?

Guest wrote Re: Microsoft - Shame shame shame..
on Tue, Aug 28 2007 3:05 PM Link To This Comment
What a complete knucklhead you are and Yeah APPLE, SUN and REDHAT just gives it away free??? get a life dude and wake up they all get paid in the end Oracle, SAP, People.,etc.,etc.,etc
Guest wrote Re: TS Licencing
on Tue, Oct 9 2007 7:13 PM Link To This Comment
Hi,

I want to do something similar. Leave my TS as W2k, but install Citrix in W2K3 without buy any terminal server license. Can I work without any issue on this enviroment.....?? Does it legal....??
Guest wrote 2000 or 2003 Active Directory
on Fri, Oct 19 2007 10:53 AM Link To This Comment
Can you run the 2003 terminal services licensing in a 2000 domain with out having to update to 2003 domain?
Guest wrote Licensing scenario
on Tue, Dec 11 2007 3:27 AM Link To This Comment

We have 800 users who will be able to connect to a W2003 TS from their XP computer.All of them will be connected to TS with the same unique username (Automatic logon) but we will allow only 50 concurents connections.

What is the best terminal license mode selection(per user or per device) and how many licences do we have to buy (50 or 800)?

Thanks for your help

 

Guest wrote Re: Why can't Microsoft write software that actually works?
on Fri, Dec 28 2007 8:57 AM Link To This Comment

Did you install the licensing service? It does not install with Terminal Services...

Control Panel | Add Remove Programs | Windows Components | Terminal Services Licensing Service

Guest wrote Re: We have two domains with a licensing server in one of them
on Fri, Dec 28 2007 9:05 AM Link To This Comment
In Windows 2003 Terminal Server environments, the TS licensing service must be installed on a Windows 2003 server. That server can be any server in your environment that has a trust path to your Terminal Servers. (i.e. same domain, or trusted domain, or trusted forest, etc.)
Guest wrote Re: Terminal Server has only issued Temp Licenses
on Wed, Jan 23 2008 12:30 PM Link To This Comment
The first time a client connects it is given a temporary license.  The second time the client connects the temp license is replaced with an actual license.
Guest wrote Re: Licensing scenario
on Wed, Jan 23 2008 12:37 PM Link To This Comment
Per device if you have more users than computers.  Per user if you have more computers than users.  Even though you are only allowing 50 concurrent connections, each user is unique, so you will require 800 licenses.
Guest wrote Re: Re: Licensing scenario
on Wed, Jan 23 2008 4:25 PM Link To This Comment

Brian,

 Your article was a great help.  It confirmed the information that is stated (although not very clearly) in the MS TS Licensing document that per-user TS CALs are not allocated (Server 2003), tracked, counted, etc.  It is easier for me to just track my licenses using a spreadsheet, and true up when I need to.  What really kills me, is that when I had talked to the TS Clearinghouse, they inadvertently added licenses to my TS Licensing server by reactivating my existing licenses (they also did this once with the integrator that set the system up).  So now I have activated 10 purchased CALs, but the licensing server shows 20.  Knowing that per-user CALs are not tracked, I will stop screwing around trying to fix MS's licensing issues (I went through three people and was told that tech support would charge me for an incident to remove the extra licenses, a problem that they caused!) and just continue on my merry way tracking my own license usage as I usually do.

 This is a great in depth article that has obviously helped many people.  Microsoft should be compensating you! :>)  I have bookmarked your site now as a reference.

 Glen Martin

PS  Get a "Null" popup box when I try to submit a new post, so I will try this as a reply to another post.

Guest wrote Thanks
on Wed, Jan 30 2008 2:06 AM Link To This Comment
Good article. Helped me through this unnecessary licensing BS.
Guest wrote Can I Reuse Deleted User's CAL's ?
on Fri, Feb 8 2008 5:42 AM Link To This Comment

Any advice would be appreciated:

I have 40 users on my TS2003 environment, all licensed (Windows Server CAL & TS User CAL). Now if 3 people are no longer employed, but 3 new people are coming onboard, can I just delete the 3 old user accounts, and create 3 new ones, and be in compliance?

Also, any advice on load balancing/failover with a second license server? Do I just install a second one, and start adding any new Server/TS CALs to it?

Thanks in advance, Brian.

 

Guest wrote Restrict issueing TSCALS
on Wed, Feb 27 2008 6:49 AM Link To This Comment

Hello,

I have a terminal server environment in which a lot of employees are working on a small amount of sattelite workstations. Since I only have 6 of those workstations, and 50 employees using them, I chose to employ per/devic e-licensing. However, because people are used to work on the terminal server, they also connect to it from their own workstations when they're in the office. The terminal server simply issues licenses to those workstations, and as a result, I run out of TSCAL's in a flash.

Therefore I'm lookgin for a way to control to what client devices the terminal server will issue a TSCAL (for example based on computer name). Is that possible? 

 

Thanks in advance

 --

Rien Broekstra

Guest wrote TS Licensing Server 2003 upgrade !
on Thu, Feb 28 2008 3:13 PM Link To This Comment
I have a W2K domain enviroment, one of my DC's has the TS Licensing running, but I have several W2K3 servers. Can I remove the TS Licensing from the W2K DC and choose one of the W2K3 Server and install the Licensing Server. I have mixed licenses, in this cenario, it will work ? Because a have one problem, whem I try to connect to any W2K3 server, the TS session tells me that could not find the Licensing Server. I have tried many troubleshoot steps, edit registry and others, but doesnt work. Thanks.
Guest wrote Re: TS CALS user vs device
on Tue, Mar 11 2008 8:38 PM Link To This Comment

Wow, I can't change the licensing mode to user, mine is grayed out and not active.  How did you do that???

robertgosney@martorifarms.com

Guest wrote Re: NT 4.0 Domain User not found by TS 2003 Server
on Wed, Apr 2 2008 7:22 AM Link To This Comment

We also see winlogon errors on W2k3 server with cps4.0

And:

Message: Windows was unable to load the registry. This is often caused by insufficient memory or insufficient security rights.
DETAIL - Insufficient system resources exist to complete the requested service. for C:\Documents and Settings\s0117935\ntuser.dat

Guest wrote Re: NT 4.0 Domain User not found by TS 2003 Server
on Wed, Apr 2 2008 7:28 AM Link To This Comment

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Winlogon
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1219
Date:  4/2/2008
Time:  11:00:15 AM
User:  N/A
Computer: STDSTS002
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Logon rejected for STD\s0612316. Unable to obtain Terminal Server User Configuration. Error: Not enough resources are available to complete this operation.

Guest wrote Per device TS CAL Issue
on Tue, Apr 8 2008 9:53 AM Link To This Comment

So I have mobile Windows Embedded SP2 on WYSE 941G thin client and I'm having a issue on a few of the thin clients....

We roll out our base image to the thin client using Rapport server. (At this point the image does not have HKLM\Software\Microsoft\MSLicensing\Store\License00x key)

We run New Sid name the client install Citrix PNAgent, test the connection to the Citrix farm by opening a App and then enable the file based write filter.

Like I said the problem I'm having on a few clients is that for some reason they will grab a new license using the same name. I look on my license server and will see the same client XXX grab a license on Tuesday and the same XXX on Thursday. They are not being rebuil or re-image they are just out on the floors being used.

 Has anyone seen this? I seem to think it's the write filter blowing away the key after a reboot and when it connects to the terminal Server again it think it's a new device and ask for another license, but I can't prove it. I went to the other 20 I have out so far and rebooted them many times with the write filter enable, but can't recreat the issue. I would hope that WYSE/Microsoft are smart enough when creating the Write Filter to ignore that regestry key, but who know.

I opened at case with WYSE, but they closed my case and said resolved, but nevey answered me.

ANY HELP WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED!!!

Guest wrote Per Device License Issue
on Tue, Apr 8 2008 9:55 AM Link To This Comment

So I have mobile Windows Embedded SP2 on WYSE 941G thin client and I'm having a issue on a few of the thin clients....

We roll out our base image to the thin client using Rapport server. (At this point the image does not have HKLM\Software\Microsoft\MSLicensing\Store\License00x key)

We run New Sid name the client install Citrix PNAgent, test the connection to the Citrix farm by opening a App and then enable the file based write filter.

Like I said the problem I'm having on a few clients is that for some reason they will grab a new license using the same name. I look on my license server and will see the same client XXX grab a license on Tuesday and the same XXX on Thursday. They are not being rebuil or re-image they are just out on the floors being used.

 Has anyone seen this? I seem to think it's the write filter blowing away the key after a reboot and when it connects to the terminal Server again it think it's a new device and ask for another license, but I can't prove it. I went to the other 20 I have out so far and rebooted them many times with the write filter enable, but can't recreat the issue. I would hope that WYSE/Microsoft are smart enough when creating the Write Filter to ignore that regestry key, but who know.

I opened at case with WYSE, but they closed my case and said resolved, but nevey answered me.

ANY HELP WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED!!!

Guest wrote Re: Checking if USER TS CAL's are being assigned
on Thu, Jun 19 2008 9:48 PM Link To This Comment

Suren Roy<a href="mailto:surenroy@gmail.com" target="_blank">surenroy@gmail.com</a>

Guest wrote Multi TS Licensing Servers within a network
on Fri, Jun 20 2008 6:47 AM Link To This Comment

Is it possible to install multiple TS licensing servers within a netwiork? I have two citrix servers serving two group of staffs running same application within one small network (using workgroup setup instead of AD).  For safety reason, I would like that two citirx servers running indenpendly; so I try to install each citrix server with its own licensing server.   Is there anyone has this experience before and how to do it ? any help would be mmuch appreciated !   

Guest wrote CAL question
on Tue, Jun 24 2008 3:01 PM Link To This Comment

Is there a way to get the Terminal Server CAL keys from an existing Terminal Server?  A client of mine lost all his information.  The clearinghouse was able to transfer the license server but when we try to connect to the new server, it won't let more than 2 on at a time.  We have 40 Per Device.  How do we get the volume license for the CAL from the server or anything that can help us get running again.

Guest wrote Error while connecting through remote desktop
on Fri, Jun 27 2008 5:59 AM Link To This Comment

When a user tries to connect through a remote desktop to a server Win2003 based he gets an error " There are no terminal services access licenses available for this computer. Please contact server administrator.".What should I do, he was able to access successfully from the past 1 year and suddenly he is not able to do so. what could be the problem. Please suggest.

Guest wrote Home Use Program
on Tue, Jul 8 2008 10:02 AM Link To This Comment

If I purchase Office 2007 through the Home Use Program would I be able to use it legally when connecting to my company through a Citrix connection that allows me access to either a specific Microsoft Office application or SharePoint or JDE which both require using Office without having to secure another full license of Office2003? I am wondering if the rights provided by Office 2007 would be equivalent to a valid Microsoft license # or certification # for MS Office 2003 Professional residing on my personal laptop or desktop.  Would the license provided under the Home Use Program allow me to access Office applications through Citrix or would I have to buy a new Office2003 license as well in order to use Office applications through Citrix when I am connecting from home? 

Guest wrote cracking terminal server
on Mon, Sep 8 2008 3:03 AM Link To This Comment

I want to pirate terminal server how is it possible can any one help me.

Guest wrote Re: Terminal Server accross firewall license ports to open
on Tue, Sep 16 2008 5:49 AM Link To This Comment

Terminal Services uses port 3389

Guest wrote Expire per device ts cals
on Tue, Sep 23 2008 12:05 PM Link To This Comment

Is there anyway to expire per device TS CALs, or delete them?  We have some that are from old devices and need to be able to reuse the cals but do not want to have to wait for the expiration date.  Any way to do this?  Any thought are greatly appreciated.Steve

vijay27 wrote re: The Ultimate Guide to Windows 2003 Terminal Server Licensing
on Wed, Jun 3 2009 2:14 PM Link To This Comment

I have 20 Thin Clients connected to Windows 2003 Standard Edition server. Please what all terminal licenses are required for connecting all the TC to the server

mayer wrote re: The Ultimate Guide to Windows 2003 Terminal Server Licensing
on Mon, Jul 27 2009 7:12 AM Link To This Comment

Hi, you're article is very helpful.. However, i had a problem troubleshooting my set up license server. why does my terminal server could not find the Terminal license server. At first the server will able to connect on it but suddenly server has not able to connect. Can u help me what was the problem with the configuration. Both servers has the same subnet mask. belong to the same workgroup. tnx in advance

ramoj_00 wrote re: The Ultimate Guide to Windows 2003 Terminal Server Licensing
on Mon, Dec 12 2011 12:37 AM Link To This Comment

i have some problem im new on our compny .. and one of my task is to monitor and check terminal service licenses and i was inform that they have 50 device cals installed but when i check the license server manager it has 3 groups 2 volume license and 1 retail license and on each group they have 25 Device cals each all in all they have 75 Device CALs running..

they are not aware why it has 75 all they know is that they only have 50..

now they want to add 36 from their exisiting 50 device CALs .. they are asking to remove the 25 retail device CALs before adding the new 36 CALs.

is this possible that they might be using more than the license CALs?

Is it possible aswell to remove the 25 CALs? If yes how?

Please help with your great minds .

Thanks in advance.

ramoj_00 wrote re: The Ultimate Guide to Windows 2003 Terminal Server Licensing
on Mon, Dec 12 2011 12:37 AM Link To This Comment

i have some problem im new on our compny .. and one of my task is to monitor and check terminal service licenses and i was inform that they have 50 device cals installed but when i check the license server manager it has 3 groups 2 volume license and 1 retail license and on each group they have 25 Device cals each all in all they have 75 Device CALs running..

they are not aware why it has 75 all they know is that they only have 50..

now they want to add 36 from their exisiting 50 device CALs .. they are asking to remove the 25 retail device CALs before adding the new 36 CALs.

is this possible that they might be using more than the license CALs?

Is it possible aswell to remove the 25 CALs? If yes how?

Please help with your great minds .

Thanks in advance.

Andre wrote re: The Ultimate Guide to Windows 2003 Terminal Server Licensing
on Thu, Apr 5 2012 7:43 AM Link To This Comment

Nice article , compliements

However.. i have a question, since i have the the follwing isues, with the error

"No valid license detected, running in unlicensed mode. Check the user manual for detailed licensing information"

I know this error is space related in the system drive, on sbs2003 however i am havin problems finding any info how much is the minimal amount of space required to prevent this error from happening

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