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Brian & Gabe LIVE #21: Guise Bule joins us to talk about tuCloud, security, and Microsoft

Written on Mar 20 2012 6,043 views, 1 comment

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by Gabe Knuth

This week, Guise Bule from tuCloud joined us on Brian & Gabe Live. You may know Guise as the CEO of tuCloud, and while we wanted to ask about how all that works, we invited Guise on to talk about his latest activity in the ongoing Microsoft/OnLive licensing fiasco. Last week, he announced a DaaS offering that purposefully defies Microsoft licensing rules. That alone was enough for us to invite him on the show. Thanks to everybody for the great conversation!

Here are the topics we actually covered in today's show:


  • Guise launched a proof-of-concept website, but it's not actually possible to legally deliver VDI desktops for $10.
  • Security is a concern because hacking other people's IP will always have better ROI than doing your own R & D.
  • Multiple VMs for security—is this realistic?
  • Non-persistant VDI versus non-persistant Terminal Server.
  • Microsoft doesn't allow VDI multi-tenancy, which kills a lot of use cases.
  • How single TS users in non-persistant sessions can affect an entire persistant Terminal Server.
  • We're done with our new book, "The VDI Delusion"!
  • VMware posts a job opening for Senior Director of Product Marketing for Horizon.
  • VMware WSX—where does it fit? (We don't know yet.)
  • Sites like Wired and Engadget are easily impressed by 5 and 10 year old desktop virtualization technology.
  • Employee created corporate data versus corporate-created data: Can one file syncing solution work for both?


Part 1: Guise Bule of tuCloud explains his challenge to Microsoft licensing

Part 2: Guise Bule discusses the use of multiple VMs for security and VDI vs Terminal Server

Part 3: Guise Bule joins us to talk about how Microsoft doesn't allow VDI multi-tenancy

Part 4: Guise Bule chats about Brian's new book, VMware WSX, and how sites like Wired and Engadget are impressed by old VDI tech


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jmsazboy wrote re: Brian & Gabe Live #22: Guise Bule joins us to talk about tuCloud, security, and Microsoft
on Mon, Mar 26 2012 12:32 PM Link To This Comment

Overall I question his assertion that VDI is drastically more secure than SBC.  APT has become a boondoggle for INFOSEC companies.

Monitoring EGRESS and points and actually having a clue as to what is leaving your network is a proper method for monitoring for APT.  If it's not IE, Firefox or Outlook and it's not port 443 or port 80 than you may look into it.

I am constantly stunned at the fact that IT Security does not have the level of innovation of a Mall Security guard.  I hear all this chest beating about what they blocked but the few malicious packets that have come in, can take whatever they want and leave unmolested.  How about monitoring the exit guys?  

I am not questioning the solution, the hosted desktop will work but it is a rather drastic approach to take as an alternative to lazy EGRESS monitoring.

I guess if "War is the health of the state" CyberWar is the health of the industry?

Sorry for the rant, APT is a bit of a soap box issue for me.    

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