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Quest Software releases Provision Networks Virtual Access Suite 5.10

Written on Jul 29 2008 3,508 views, 44 comments


by Brian Madden

That's "five-point-ten"—the version after 5.9—not "five-point-one-zero." This is the first release of Provision's product that had direct feedback from Rick Mack, Jeff Pitsch, Michel Roth, and Patrick Rouse. (Who are these guys?) According to Patrick, the four of them had a lot of feedback like “it would make customers very happy if the product did 'X' instead of 'Y'," and now the product has features based on their input.

New features of Version 5.10 include:

Web Portal (called "Web-IT")

  • Web-IT migrated from ASP.NET 1.1 to ASP.NET 2.0
  • Config files migrated from text to XML ( to support future automation)
  • Integration with Juniper Secure Access
  • Smart card support

Clients

  • True multi-monitor support (different resolutions on different screens, monitor awareness, etc.)
  • Updated Linux and Java clients
  • PXE boot Linux client
  • LiveCD Linux client
  • All AppPortal client settings can be stored in a single configuration file
  • Ticketing: Secure tickets will be issued per connection request, obviating the need to embed hashed user credentials inside .pit connection files
  • Java client fully supported via Secure Gateway

Connection Broker & Management Console

  • Support for Microsoft Hyper-V
  • Support for Virtual Iron 4.3.x
  • Dynamic Computer Group auto-expansion (Auto provisioning of new computers)
  • Server provisioning
  • Delete computers that have not been used in a specified number of days
  • Real-time enumeration of running processes on managed computers
  • Termination of running processes on managed computers.
  • Power management of ACPI and Wake-on-LAN capable computers and servers
  • MSI package deployment to computer groups or managed computers and servers
  • Disable/enable computer groups or managed computers during maintenance cycles
  • Unique computer names enforced across desktop groups and datacenters
  • Display realtime license usage
  • Retrieval and display of VM template sizes
  • Wizard-driven managed desktop creation
  • Streamlined SoftGrid / Microsoft App Virtualization integration
  • Option to bypass proxy settings for console to broker communication
  • Verification of sufficient disk space on target storage when provisioning servers or desktops

Task Automation for Power Management (multiple recurrence options or single instance)

  • Power Off
  • Power On
  • Reset
  • Suspend / Resume (for VMware and Hyper-V)
  • Standby / Wakeup (for ACPI & WoL Devices)
Of course these features are on top of the existing features that were in Virtual Access Suite 5.9 .

In terms of product and features, it seems that Provision Networks is doing it "right." They've put a lot of work into their protocol (which for all intents and purposes is now a fully viable alternative to ICA). And as I've written many times in the past, one of the real killer things that Provision does is that you can mix and match single instance VDI hosts in with your same multi-user Terminal Server hosts, both for published desktops and APPLICATIONS. (i.e. Single seamless published apps from single user VDI hosts.) Provision doesn't have any of the same B.S. problems that Citrix has with the XenDesktop / XenApp separate licensing / separate farms just to combine VDI and TS.

Provision's product looks strong in the lab and during testing. Now it's time to see whether they can make headway in the field.



Comments

Guest wrote This is powerful
on 07-29-2008 9:28 AM
You did forget to mention the new Experience Optimization Pack that Patrick Rouse mentioned here http://blogs.inside.quest.com/provision/2008/07/24/quest-software-ships-provision-networks-virtual-access-suite-510/.  But as you said the protocol work they've done makes it a true viable alternative to ICA.

I also love all the new "automation" features which let me schedule any admin tasks to be executed "hands-free."
Patrick Rouse wrote Re This is powerful
on 07-29-2008 11:56 AM

The GDI Compression/Acceleration additions to RDP are NOT in 5.10, but are slated for 5.11 in October, and should be on display at VMworld.  These were never slated for 5.10 as we saw the prototypes for the first time in June.  This specific extension to RDP should bridge the performance gap that currently exists between RDP and ICA. 

This is different technology than Multimedia Redirection or Flash Redirection, but rather is compression of anything that goes thru the GDI. 

Exciting times....

Guest wrote all is needed now is someone to tell customers who QUEST IS
on 07-29-2008 2:22 PM
I am afraid they have very little "word of mouth" power out there and wouldn't come to mind of CUSTOMERS as viable alternativesto the big , well established names.
Stephen Pratt wrote What are they missing
on 07-29-2008 2:31 PM

I checked them out during BriForum and I think they have a great product and I was very interested in bringing them in and testing it out until I asked one very important question.  Do you have a migration tool to take me from my Citrix environment to your product?  The answer was no.  :0(  I was very disappointed because I know that I don’t have the time to re-create my entire environment, test it and move it into production.  I think that if they want to pull any customers from Citrix, like my-self, they need to have some sort of a migration tool to help us.

Guest wrote Re: Re This is powerful
on 07-29-2008 3:10 PM
but Local Text Echo and 2-way audio is included, right?
Guest wrote What are they missing - 2
on 07-29-2008 4:23 PM

Provision Networks has cool product 1 year ago but now they don't support Windows 2008 / Vista and all existing x64 platforms (including 2003).  I think it is time to concentrate on new generation operating system support ("must have" features) before implementing some "nice to have" addons.

NF

Guest wrote Re: What are they missing - 2
on 07-29-2008 6:06 PM

Provision Networks has this habit of laying low for months at a time, only to suddenly emerge with 20-30 new features. I think they're gearing up for yet another huge surprise between now and the end of the year.

Patrick Rouse wrote Re: Re This is powerful
on 07-29-2008 6:25 PM
Yes, this exists now in 5.10's Experience Optimization Pack.
Patrick Rouse wrote Re: What are they missing - 2
on 07-29-2008 6:34 PM

We create the features that:

A.  Give us a competitive advantage

B.  A paying customer is asking for.

The reality is that the percentage of users on X64 TS and Windows Server 2008 is so small that it isn't even 1%,so focusing our time on something that only a handful of customers is asking for, rather than features that appeal to the masses doesn't make sense.

We now have an impetus for supporting X64 (our partnership with Parallels) , on TS and VDI so it will exist (as far as I know) in 5.11.

I'm not sure what you mean about not supporting Vista.  The features may be different right now, but if one wants to use Vista Clients, or Vista for VDI we can do that now.

If you have a specific need, let me know and I'll see what we can do to help you.

Patrick Rouse wrote Re: all is needed now is someone to tell customers who QUEST IS
on 07-29-2008 6:54 PM

There is enough "word of mouth" to get Guest Citrix Employees on this thread throwing dirt to protect their cash cow.  I have no dirt to throw, as Citrix makes great products, and I have many friends at Citrix, but the facts are that when we ship our RDP Graphics Acceleration, the whole "ICA is the only performant WAN protocol" pitch will be dead. We don't have this today, so you can breathe easy for a few months until it's in a shipping product. :)

Guest wrote Misunderstanding....
on 07-29-2008 8:28 PM

I am curious if i understand this correctly. With the new Provision Networks is like a XenDesktop and XenServer? Or like Spice - Qumranet Solid Ice? The reason, is I am looking for something that streams great multimedia from a datacenter. It can provision new desktops to my users as well. So I hope I am thinking of this GDI is better than ICA speedscreen and RPD.

Guest wrote Re: What are they missing - 2
on 07-29-2008 8:50 PM
I don't know about that.  I'm pretty sure Vista guests in VDI and Vista clients are supported.  I also see integration with Hyper-V; that's Windows Server 2008 isn't it?  2008 TS - not sure what this gives us that we can't have with VAS and 2003 server; besides I'm light years away from dropping 2003 and moving to 2008 server.
Guest wrote Re: Misunderstanding....
on 07-29-2008 8:53 PM
Yes sir!  You understand correctly.  Difference is that Provision Networks supports or as Patrick says "provides integration and automation" for VMware VI3, MS Hyper-V, Virtual Iron, and Parallels containers.
Patrick Rouse wrote Re: Misunderstanding....
on 07-29-2008 11:22 PM

Quest Software's Virtual Access Suite is analogous to Qumranet Solid ICE or Citrix XenDesktop and our Enhanced RDP Protocol is analogous to Qumranet's SPICE or Citrix' ICA Protocol.  The difference is that ICA and our Enhanced RDP Protocol use less bandwidth across the WAN than RDP and provide better performance that RDP across the WAN, whereas SPICE is a LAN only Protocol, and Solid ICE (as I understand it) reverts to RDP over less than LAN Speed connections.

Protocols like SPICE, RGS, Teradici work great on a LAN Speed Connection, but are (as far as I know) worthless over WAN or lower speed connections.

These should clear things up even more:

http://blogs.inside.quest.com/provision/2008/06/26/vmware-offers-a-vdi-bundle-so-why-would-i-use-provision-networks-connection-broker/

http://blogs.inside.quest.com/provision/2008/07/10/but-xendesktop-has-ica/

 

Patrick Rouse
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
Sr. Sales Engineer, Western USA & Canada
Quest Software, Provision Networks Division
Virtual Client Solutions
(619) 994-5507
http://www.provisionnetworks.com

Check out the Official Provision Networks Blog:
http://blogs.inside.quest.com/provision 

Guest wrote Xen Server?
on 07-30-2008 9:45 AM
So if this supports Virtual Iron, which is Xen Based, does it support Xen Server?
Michel Roth wrote Re: Xen Server?
on 07-30-2008 11:36 AM
No. We support Virtual Iron via "their Virtual Center" Virtualization Manager which (of course) does not support Xen.
Patrick Rouse wrote Re: Re: Misunderstanding....
on 07-30-2008 11:53 AM
Strike worthless and replace with "less optimal for use".  In all reality, I've never used RGS or Teradici, so I'd love to be shown that these can be used over a WAN low low speed connection.  :)  I've been wrong before, and I'm sure that I will be again.
Patrick Rouse wrote Re: Xen Server
on 07-30-2008 12:32 PM
I guess we figure that anyone looking at XenServer for their hypervisor is doing so because they are planning to use XenDesktop.  We can manage VMs on XenServer, but don't automate their management interface via SDK like we do with VI & Vmware, so no cloning or deletion of VMs would be possible with our tools.
Guest wrote Re: Re: Misunderstanding....
on 07-30-2008 1:04 PM

Hi Patrick

With the experience optimization pack is possible to use a local attached webcam to make videoconference or bi-directional video?.

Guest wrote Re: Xen Server?
on 07-30-2008 3:23 PM
Xen does not include management software. It's just a hypervisor. Companies like Virtual Iron and Citrix build management extensions to improve the manageability of the Xen hypervisor. Management features include the ability to create, delete, clone, power-manage, and 'live-motion' virtual machines. The details of each vendor's implmentation are not tied to the hypervisor itself. For example, Provision Networks can manage VMware, Virtual Iron, Hyper-V, and Parallels. The fact that Virtual Iron is Xen-based does not mean they can also manage citrix's Xen-based platform. But this doesn't mean they won't be able to should the market demand it. 
Patrick Rouse wrote Re: Re: Misunderstanding....
on 07-30-2008 4:56 PM
I do not believe we do anything for webcams yet, but perhaps when our Universal USB hub is added this will be possible.  I hate to promise something until I've tested it myself.
Guest wrote Re: Re: Xen Server
on 07-31-2008 1:15 AM
But why not support XenServer? The XenServer API is published and enables all the needed features (create, start, stop, etc.).