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Hello,
This I can't understand and I don't know what to do about it. We have 6 TS users all connected with thin clients via vpn connection to a windows 2003 terminal server.
All applications run well, browsing on shares is fast, printing excellent,... except browsing on internet. THis is very slow... there 's also a proxy running, the aXsguard.
Has somebody an explanation for this phenomenon?
Steven
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Sounds like a IE configuration problem more than a TS problem.
1)does the proxy require authentication in order to gain access to the web? If so, does the TS server have the same connection rights and necessary routing as a workstation?
2) how are the proxy rules passed to IE? There may be a group policy or rule that needs to be pushed to the TS server to give it the same configurations as the desktops who do not exhibit the problem.
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Hi Mark/everybody,
I checked this out and the TS Server has the same connection rights and proxy rules as the other workstation in the network. IS installing a alternative browser like firefox an option? Or is there third party software to resolve the slow internet browsing?
When I'm starting up on rdp session in the lan to the TS server, surfing works well. But if I'm trying to access the internet on the remote site true a thin client, it's verry slow. I notice that our internetconnection occasionally reach is max. (we've got a burst to 1Mb), but I assume that browsing network shares then also must be slow, or is that a wrong interpretation?
At the remote site we use a ISDN ADSL connection with a fixed IP.
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It is maybe not possible to speed up browsing on internet?
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What happens if you bypass the web proxy - is web surfing still slow?
It's likely that you are visiting websites rich in multimedia content in which case an RDP connection WILL be slow. Either encourage users to browse the web on the thin client itself, or look at Provision VAS or CAE 3.0 (out soon) which both offer a much better multimedia web browsing experience in addition to a bunch of other value adding features.
Alan Osborne
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I'm sure going to try bypass the web proxy. Can you explain me in more detail what you mean with quote encourage users to browse the web on the thin client itself
And indeed, the users who experience this problem are visiting websites with a lot of multimedia content... they need it for their job, this people work in a nursery.
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What Alan means is that many thin clients include a local internet browser that uses that office's internet connection directly and doesn't run the internet browsing over the ICA connection. Running IE over ICA certainly works, but if you've got a lot of moving objects (animated GIFs or Flash or Multimedia) it can be slow and chew up lots of WAN bandwidth to do so.
Shawn
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I'll check out our type of thin cliets, certainly HP's, that's for sure.
And how works this type of internet browsing, do you have to leave your rdp session and startup a 'internet explorer' session from out of your thin client linux distribution?
Or is it possible to startup the included browser, even if you are working into the rdp session?
If so, maybe I can arrange something with our hardware vendor
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Hi Steven,
Your HP thin client almost certainly has a built-in web browser. To use it, your users would have to flip between their RDP session and the local web browser. Issues that will arise include URLs and hyperlinks embedded in emails and documents that users may click which will pull up the TS server's web browser rather than the local web browser. Citrix Access Essentials has a feature that allows you to handle this using server to client redirection so that such embedded URLs and hyperlinks WILL launch the local web browser.
You'll also have to lock down the TS server's IE to prevent web access. Search these forums for "dummy proxy" for ideas.
Finally, you'll find a limited number of codecs on the thin clients, so not all videos will play properly on the local WMP or IE. This is one area where you will be better served by a Windows XPe thin client.
Alan Osborne
President (MCSE, CCNA, VCP, CCA)
VCIT Consulting - Citrix/Terminal Services Remote Desktop Solutions for SMB
p: 604-288-7325
c: 778-836-8025
web: http://www.vcit.ca
blog: http://www.vcit.ca/wordpress
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Hi Alan,
I did check our thin-clients and unfortunally they don't have a build-in browser... The model of thin-clients we're using is 5135, 400MHZ 64F/128R Linux. I had today a phonecall with the HP support and they told me that they do not support this type because it rans on linux. The question I had was, or it was possible to integrate a webbrowser. Maybe there's an other image for these thin-clients with a build-in browser but hey could not help me. If windows was installed on the thin-clients there was maybe a chance... I just can believe it. We bought this type of clients, Hp selling these things with linux on it, but can't give support because open source is installed on it, unbelievable! Can you understand this way of selling things?
Anyway, I have to move on because we have them just for a few months in use. Is there maybe a hack, or something like that, to modify the clients so they can use a build-in webbrowser? These days it impossible for me to except things like that, there has to be way to do it, but how...
Hp didn't say it was impossible, so there has to be a solution. (sorry for the typos ;-)
And already thanks for sharing your opinion with me!
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Hi,
You could give the 2X ThinServer PXES Edition (freeware) a shot:
http://www.2x.com/thinclientserver/
It would allow you to run a Linux based OS c/w web browser including Java and Flash, although I don't believe it includes a local media player.
There's also the ThinStation project too:
http://thinstation.sourceforge.net
As mentioned before, you should look at add-on products for MS TS such as Citrix Access Essentials, Provision VAS, Ericom, etc as you'll get a better multimedia experience for websites and other content than you will with MS TS alone, plus you'll get a ton of extra functionality as well.
Alan Osborne
President (MCSE, CCNA, VCP, CCA)
VCIT Consulting - Citrix/Terminal Services Remote Desktop Solutions for SMB
p: 604-288-7325
c: 778-836-8025
web: http://www.vcit.ca
blog: http://www.vcit.ca/wordpress
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